• proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world
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    No. They were state-capitalists.

    Ok.

    You agree that companies made profits. That’s a capitalist policy.

    Considering what was before, it was a gradual step towards socialism. Nazi Germany existed for like 30 years. Not everything can be implemented immediately.

    All socialists apply Marxist analysis at least partially

    Uhuh. Is Charles Fourier socialist?

    You’re enough of an ancap

    What is that even supposed to mean?

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      Considering what was before, it was a gradual step towards socialism. Nazi Germany existed for like 30 years.

      Ah, yes. And Hitler clearly stated that he was a socialist… somewhere. You have to read between the lines of “Mein Kampf”, where he clearly states that he’s right wing. And all the companies who profited immensly from all that slave labour where juuuust about to be socialised. /s

      Uhuh. Is Charles Fourier socialist?

      Got any proper points, or are you just gonna “umm actually” me to death?

      What is that even supposed to mean?

      You’re a weirdo who deserves to be ridiculed for having such a stupid worldview.

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        Ah, yes. And Hitler clearly stated that he was a socialist… somewhere

        I didn’t say it. Although he did.

        You have to read between the lines of “Mein Kampf”, where he clearly states that he’s right wing.

        Where?

        Btw are bolsheviks communists? Bc they clearly stated they are. No need to even read between the lines.

        And all the companies who profited immensly from all that slave labour

        And what’s the relation between capitalism and slavery?

        Got any proper points, or are you just gonna “umm actually” me to death?

        The point is that socialists can be socialists without applying Marx works in any way.

        You’re a weirdo who deserves to be ridiculed for having such a stupid worldview

        What worldview? What is my worldview?

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          I didn’t say it. Although he did.

          Where? Here, maybe, where he ridicules the people who think the Nazis were socialists?

          Wie oft haben wir uns geschüttelt vor Lachen über diese einfältigen bürgerlichen Angsthasen, angesichts des geistvollen Rätselratens über unsere Herkunft, unsere Absichten und unser Ziel. Wir haben die rote Farbe unserer Plakate nach genauem und gründlichem Überlegen gewählt, um dadurch die linke Seite zu reizen, zur Empörung zu bringen und sie zu verleiten, in unsere Versammlungen zu kommen, wenn auch nur, um sie zu sprengen, damit wir auf diese Weise überhaupt mit den Leuten reden konnten.

          Where?

          In this chapter, for example

          Btw are bolsheviks communists? Bc they clearly stated they are. No need to even read between the lines.

          They stated that as their goal. The Nazis stated a Reich enuring 1000 years as their goal. Did those succeed?

          And what’s the relation between capitalism and slavery?

          They’re compatible.

          The point is that socialists can be socialists without applying Marx works in any way.

          Name one socialist that came after Marx that doesn’t agree with him in some manner or the other.

          What worldview? What is my worldview?

          Please, enlighten me. I could do with a bit of absurd fantasy worldbuilding.

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            Where?

            In some interview or article, I believe.

            They stated that as their goal. The Nazis stated a Reich enuring 1000 years as their goal. Did those succeed?

            So unless someone achieves communism, they’re not a communist? Btw, since 3rd Reich didn’t follow all nazi tenants and didn’t achieve all nazi goals, maybe they weren’t nazis?

            Name one socialist that came after Marx that doesn’t agree with him in some manner or the other

            Hitler

            Sorry, but you’ve set up this perfect punchline yourself.

            Please, enlighten me

            Oh, so you don’t know what my views are, but have already concluded they’re absurd. Well, jokes on you, I’m an anarcho communist (no)

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              In some interview or article, I believe.

              Sure you didn’t read that in a dream?

              So unless someone achieves communism, they’re not a communist?

              Why did you ask whether or not the bolsheviki were communists, exactly?

              Hitler

              Circular logic as an “argument”, then. Gotcha.

              Oh, so you don’t know what my views are, but have already concluded they’re absurd.

              You’ve given enough hints (you consider yourself far right than call the Nazis far left), so I took a guess. I was open to reach another conclusion…

              I’m an anarcho communist (no)

              … But clearly, you’re afraid of further ridicule.