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Regardless of whoever came up with the idea, recycling does help and you should do it:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230317-how-recycling-can-help-the-climate-and-other-facts
It may not save the planet on its own, but it is part of the solution.
It is worth noting that other types of materials are regularly recycled fairly well
For instance, paper and carboard (as long as it’s without food grease) work well
Also worth noting that #1 and #2 plastics are usually recycled. #3 and above are typically not economically viable and thus not recycled. They have higher cost and produce lower quality plastics after recyling
There was a time when China had such high raw demand for plastics that they would recycle large amounts of the higher number plastics from other countries. They no longer do so
These distinctions are typically not expressed to people very well. In any case, recycling is supposed to be the thing that comes after trying to reduce waste and reuse waste. It’s not a magical bullet, but it can help with the things you can’t easily reduce or reuse. Somehow it became the focal point of everything and the other two got lost
Aluminum is cheaper to recycle than to make, even more so than glass.
And it’s basically infinitely recyclable
You lose a bit of it every time you recycle, turned into non-recyclable compounds.
You will lose half of it in half a dozen iterations or so. What wouldn’t be a big deal if so much of it wasn’t single-use, but it is.
Also, aluminum is more polluting to make than most plastics. It may compensate for that with the easiness of recycling or not, depends on lots of details.
Somehow it became the focal point of everything and the other two got lost
I think it was the marketing the image is referring to… 😅
Aluminum is cheaper to recycle than to make, even more so than glass.
Don’t look too much into “dolphin-safe” tuna.
Or how shrimp are harvested
Both can be true, don’t pressure yourself. Just do what you can if you feel like it and vote for people who do too
Plastic may be so, but glass recycling has been a thing for decades (depending on where you are), aliminium recycling is all well, same for paper (if grease free) There’s also wooden alternatives for a lot of plastic/silicon stuff, and wood can be reused/burned/mulched.
So in a way it IS your responsibility - to give up plastic
Take an inventory of plastic shit in your life. It’s a lot. I don’t think I could cut it out completely. I’m having a hard time imagining zero plastic grocery shopping. It’s possible to be sure, but fucking everything comes in plastic.
Even things that don’t use plastic packaging have plastics in their packaging - airtight seals on the inside of jar lids and the coating on the inside of soup cans come to mind. Can definitely reduce plastic consumption but I don’t think going plastic free is possible unless you’re raising your own food and the seeds/feed also come in plastic free packaging…
If you were to go to the co-op, buy only bulk, put it in jars straight off… But even getting tooth paste or shampoo. It’s tough.
your responsibility
*Assuming the products are available and you make enough to buy them.
You can actually recycle some plastics at home with a flat tray and an oven. PET, LDP and HDP can all be sorted, cut up and placed on a tray. With a relatively low heat setting they’ll flatten out into a sheet that can be cut and used for hobbying or other purposes.
Look for tutorials online for the details.
Also, some countries have MUCH BETTER recycling programs than others.
he way the US “recycles” has been mostly sending them away to countries who just toss them into the sea.
In EU countries that won’t fly as easily. But governments still look the other way and put that responsibility on NGOs who often lie about how much they recycle. They claim “70%”, but that’s 70% of what’s put in the container paid by the city. There’s still way too much stuff tossed into the normal trash or out in the open.
If you have a municipal waste-to-energy facility, it’s somehow actually more efficient and safer to get it incinerated.
Highly recommended if you can’t avoid plastics for whatever reason.
They do have aluminum recylable all sorts of stuff now too.
Cups, straws, etc.
There was a book recently about how plastics “recycling” these days is usually a shady deal where someone gets cash to dump the recycling in a downtrodden part of the world
I think I remember reading somewhere that if we got rid of the 5 biggest cruise ships and all private jets that would almost cut co2 emissions by 50%.
That seems high. I’d buy 2-5%
You are probably right about I don’t honestly remember the number.
I wonder if we framed it in bible talk we might get through to them? Like they’re for sure guilty of gluttony and greed. I’m pretty sure there’s something about God giving the world into the care of man too.
Big if true
Okay dumbfuck from America, we get you’re American you can shut the fuck up. Recycling is a thing that exists in every other sane country, morons.
Of course, of course. And are the dumbfucks from America in the room with us right now?
