In perhaps his most disappointing policy announcement thus far, Carney has indicated he will scrap the Liberal’s plan to increase the capital gains inclusion rate. This mildly progressive measure was directed squarely at the passive incomes of the wealthiest sliver of Canadians and would have served as a healthy revenue generator. Instead, it’s destined for the scrapheap.
Problematic? Absolutely. He’s a solid Progressive Conservative, in the mold of Joe Clark and Robert Stanfield. He’s a banker, and sees continual financial growth as essential to society.
But he also knows that the way forward for our nation is to diversify our trading partners, so we can cut off the ones that don’t help us.
DON’T LET PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF GOOD
Vote red but keep the pressure on them, talk to your representatives and make your voices heard, because you know that the CPC won’t care what you say, they never did.
First step is we elect a Liberal Government. Second step is we continue the fight and put pressure on them for proportional representation, de-americanizing our cloud infrastructures, gaining our independence and making our country stronger in the face of the world’s instability.
We need to build, we need to make alliances, we need someone that has strong negotiation skills.
Plus, as others have said, if you don’t have to vote Liberal because you’re in a place where the Conservatives have no chance, it’s ok to vote with your heart/morals etc.
exactly, no one say Carney is gonna be perfect. actually no matter who win, there will ALWAYS be issue. because no single policy will be pleasing to everyone.
but lets just say if PP win… we have PROBLEMS. not just issues. and at this point, Carney is the BEST option.My riding is a conservative stronghold, but I’m still going to vote for my local Liberal candidate. As soon as Election Canada received my local Liberal candidate’s nomination application, I’m planning to scrape together some funds and donate to them.
I rather not vote red or blue. Just going to vote orange.
Vote ABC, we don’t want a repeat of what happened south of the border. THEN we can push for proportional representation and secure a political landscape favourable to multi parties.
After what happened with Trudeau and FPTP, I think the only way this will ever happen is with another minority government.
Please please please people don’t parrot brain-dead American takes that not voting for Carney is voting for PP. We are running a parliamentary election in a Westminster system. There is no single election, there are 338 elections. We don’t elect a prime minister, we elect a parliament.
Think, and vote strategically.
While it is absolutely true that the blackmail holds in ridings where it’s a competitive Conservative-Liberal race, it is a shit take in ridings where eg the race is between Conservatives and NDP (where Liberals would be the spoiler) or where the race is between the Liberals and the NDP, or the Bloc or the Greens (a Liberal minority dependent on the NDP/BQ/GP is actually a possible outcome that keeps PP out power and can moderate Carney’s neoliberal tendencies).
So, basically if the conservatives have a chance to win your riding, vote whoever has the highest chance to keep them out. Otherwise, vote your conscience.
Vote! It’s as easy as ABC.
I’ve been saying for weeks now, thirty years ago this dude would’ve landed solidly Progressive Conservative.
I’m still gonna vote Liberal to keep PP out, but they ain’t my preference.
And where would Trudeau land? Green party or the “green” party is my bet.
Right, because buying a pipeline to ensure it will be completed, allowing for even more oil extraction, is definitely the sort of thing the Green party would do…
He’s not Mr. Right…but he is Mr. Right Now.
Alright, NDP it is then, just like every other election.
Edit: I’m talking about my personal vote. Am I being downvoted for this? Could I get some feedback as well?
It’s kinda a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. If you follow the ABC (anything but conservative) “strategic” crowd, then you slowly push Canada towards a two party system. If you vote for someone who actually represents your political views, then you potentially help get PP elected.
This is why proportional representation is so important, and why I single-issue voted for Trudeau, as he promised to fix what is in my opinion the biggest problem with our current political system. The Liberals proved they can’t be trusted to properly follow through on their promises, so I can’t, in good conscience, give them my vote again until they prove themselves trustworthy.
I already voted for Carney to lead the Libs, but I’ll not be voting for him in the general election if he doesn’t answer these
questionsissues three:We need to see proportional representation. It will drive engagement, especially for this campaign.
We need to see a return to the days of the 1% and corporations paying their fair share, since they are the ones who most benefit from our systems and infrastructure.
We need an end to welfare for the 1% and corporations. We know what a balance sheet is, and so does Carney.
The move towards a two-party system is inevitable under first-past-the-post voting systems. This is why I considered Trudeau’s betrayal of electoral reform to be a generational stab-in-the-back and swore I would never vote Liberal again.
And first-past-the-post is also why I am breaking that vow and voting Liberal in the upcoming election. My riding happens to be a “tossup” between Conservative and Liberal, and in this particular election I can’t afford to “vote my conscience”. The existence of Canada is at stake. And so I hold my nose really hard and recognize the reality of the facts before me.
Some people may be fortunate enough to be in ridings where a vote for NDP wouldn’t literally help put Poilievre in power, but I am not. I must do what I can to actually help. I recommend everyone check your riding’s polling numbers to confirm whether you have that luxury.
I don’t think that’s actually true. I detest FPTP but Westminster systems all around have all sorts of smaller parties that work because they have concentrated power bases. The NDP, the Bloc, etc have been electing MPs for decades. If what you’re saying is true, they would have been disappeared by now.
It’s good that we have that but we can still yearn for more.
Here we go huh?
Was there ever any doubt? Given his history, it’s pretty clear where his policy priorities are gonna land.
Like OP says, Poilievre appears to have worse policies than Carney, but that doesn’t mean Carney deserves carte blanche.
