With the number of people who actively vote against their own interests because they’re dumb, I’m starting to agree with those who say voting shouldn’t be compulsory.
compulsory voting removes some of the apathy: “they’re both the same” isn’t as powerful to stop people (and let’s be honest here, this tactic works best against progressives) getting out to vote if they’re already at the polling place… it virtually eliminates voter suppression
I’m sorry but “voter suppression” isn’t a thing, especially when something as logical and simple as “have ID to prove you have the right to vote” is constantly called “voter suppression”.
Why would they suddenly not vote if it became optional? The problem isn’t that they’re voting, it’s that they don’t have the class consciousness to recognise and investigate their core interests in federal politics.
From Condorcet’s jury theorem, it’s clear that having a few million less voters won’t solve the problem, but improving the political literacy of voters can.
Lots and LOTS of people only vote because they have to, and they vote for whoever lies the best.
If they didn’t have to vote they wouldn’t, and the major parties would lose a LOT of votes, which is what needs to happen. We need independents to actually have a chance.
Honestly compulsory voting is one of the best things about Australian democracy.
Trying to explain it to the yanks is just bonkers.
Also postal voting. Muricans need time off work and if they’re in a vote suppressed area might have to queue for many hours.
With the number of people who actively vote against their own interests because they’re dumb, I’m starting to agree with those who say voting shouldn’t be compulsory.
compulsory voting removes some of the apathy: “they’re both the same” isn’t as powerful to stop people (and let’s be honest here, this tactic works best against progressives) getting out to vote if they’re already at the polling place… it virtually eliminates voter suppression
I’m sorry but “voter suppression” isn’t a thing, especially when something as logical and simple as “have ID to prove you have the right to vote” is constantly called “voter suppression”.
@Whirlybird @null_dot arguably, not voting is a vote against your own interests
It’s less of a vote against your own interests than literally voting against your own interests. Less votes means each vote has more power.
Why would they suddenly not vote if it became optional? The problem isn’t that they’re voting, it’s that they don’t have the class consciousness to recognise and investigate their core interests in federal politics.
From Condorcet’s jury theorem, it’s clear that having a few million less voters won’t solve the problem, but improving the political literacy of voters can.
Lots and LOTS of people only vote because they have to, and they vote for whoever lies the best.
If they didn’t have to vote they wouldn’t, and the major parties would lose a LOT of votes, which is what needs to happen. We need independents to actually have a chance.