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        LMAO let’s not pretend like places such as /FemaleDatingStrategy don’t exist. Misogynists and misandrists are two sides of the same coin. If I have no problem saying that misogynists like Andrew Tate are shitheads, then you can admit that man-hating misandrists are also shitheads.

        And don’t you start telling me “Oh, but woman-hating misogynists are worse” because then the conversation turns in to the “Oppression Olympics” and all people do is focus on arguing about who has it worse instead of focusing on actually fixing anybody’s problems. Both misogynists and misandrists are bad, and both should be condemned.

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          LMAO let’s not pretend like places such as /FemaleDatingStrategy don’t exist.

          FDS has nowhere near the same reach as Tate, or other manosphere influencers.

          And don’t you start telling me “Oh, but woman-hating misogynists are worse” because then the conversation turns in to the “Oppression Olympics” and all people do is focus on arguing about who has it worse instead of focusing on actually fixing anybody’s problems.

          Yes, they are both dicks. But one group has active control of the most powerful government on earth.

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            Yes, they are both dicks.

            Stop. Right there. That’s all you need to say.

            Cut off that other crap about men “running the most powerful government in the world”. I guarantee the average man does not “run the world”. I sure as hell don’t. Do you? No? Then stop.

            No more saying “My side has it worse, so your side doesn’t deserve to have your problems addressed”, neither gender should have their very real problems ignored.

            There are no winners in the “Oppression Olympics”, only losers. The first step towards not being a loser is to stop thinking like a loser.

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            So, no answer then?

            Oh, you got your answer. You just didn’t like the answer - Probably because the answer acknowledged that men’s problems actually exist in this regard, and you don’t like that either.

            You know what I didn’t like? My ex beating the shit out of me, and getting away with it every single time because just because she’s a woman.

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      yes, the few hundred people on tumblr who hate all men are just as bad as the incel influencers making millions every year who have sympathizers in many governments

      fuck off

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        tumblr? Seems like a cool place to me.

        I’m talking about people with these beliefs in positions of power and influence abusing that power and ruining people’s lives.

        Just like OP.

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          edit: I was being an ass. ill shut up now

          in positions of power

          WHERE??? incels are running the US government, what power do your man-haters even have???

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            The power to ostracize and bully me out of a job for daring to get sexually assaulted by my female boss while being intersex-presenting-male, then continue to bully and ostracize me for the following seven years, fully destroying my life.

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              Not-so-fun fact: If you call the domestic abuse hotline as a male who’s experiencing violence at the hands of a woman, they will just hang up on you.

              Source: I was in a physically abusive relationship and tried to call the domestic abuse hotline for advice, and they hung up on me.

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                As someone who saw the cops go over to the neighbor’s house about 15 times… They don’t care about any kind of domestic violence 😊

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                  I refuse to belittle or diminish anyone’s suffering who’s been through domestic violence. Doesn’t matter if they are a man or a woman, I hope that your neighbor finds away to get out of their abusive situation.

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          If we upvote one, we should upvote the other. It should go both ways, or none at all

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      GamerGate-tier slop. “tumblristas” or whatever have nowhere near the level of influence, power or damage to society as the manosphere. When was the last time you read about one shooting up a school?

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        GamerGate-tier slop. “tumblristas” or whatever have nowhere near the level of influence, power or damage to society as the manosphere.

        By that logic, if someone punches you with brass knuckles then you have no right to complain because brass knuckles have nowhere near the level of power or damage-dealing ability to a person as a gun does.

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          What? Saying one thing is on a different level is not the same as saying the other doesn’t exist.

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            What? Saying one thing is on a different level is not the same as saying the other doesn’t exist.

            Well, a big part of men’s problem here is plenty of people do say that in one way or another - That men’s problems in this regard “don’t exist”.

            I’ve experienced domestic violence before. She preferred to knock the shit out of me when I was sleeping. I don’t care how strong you think you are, you aren’t able to protect yourself when you are asleep.

            I have flat-out had people tell me that “men cannot be abused by women, just like how a woman can’t r-pe a man” when I’ve told people about the situation.

            How else am I to interpret that, other than “your problems don’t exist”?