• Lightor@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    You call out all the reasons they should have a kid, like free healthcare. But ignore all the reasons why people don’t want to have kids.

    You also ignore all the reasons why someone in a 3rd world country might have more kids. Like mortality rate, needing more hands for work, etc.

    Yes contraception and reproductive rights are part of it. But acting like those are the only things it’s naive.

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      Acting like making peoples lives more comfortable will make them want to have kids is every more naive, that’s why I was replying in the first place. There’s plenty of reasons people don’t want them, women rights gives them even more reasons, women rights and contraception gives them the means to prevent it.

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        4 days ago

        Lol, you’re clearly invested in one side and doing research in only one direction. There are plenty of reasons people would want kids too. There are plenty of reasons they don’t have kids that can be changed.

        You also pick out a chart that conveniently only has things that support this view called out. Ignoring correlation doesn’t equal causation. If you think so, this site will blow your mind https://search.app/RrPkGZ5UpJcSrvHU9

        I’m not here to change your mind, you’ve made it up. I’ve said my piece.

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          Thing is, when you see the same thing happen all over the world then saying “correlation doesn’t equal causation!” just makes you look dumb.

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              If you bother doing some research you’ll realize that the same thing is happening all over the world, but I know that’s too much to ask from you.

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                3 days ago

                Ahh the old “do you research” line.

                Yeah I did, and the facts don’t support your point. Maybe do some actual research instead of typing what you want to see in Google and cherry picking, but I know that’s too much to ask from you.

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                    3 days ago

                    Oh, so nuance and context isn’t a thing?

                    I mean if we want to argue in bad faith, I got a pretty light day.

                    But let me do your research for you.

                    In 2024, the U.S. saw a 1% increase in births, totaling approximately 3.6 million.

                    South Korea, known for having one of the world’s lowest fertility rates, experienced its first increase in births in nearly a decade in 2024. The number of births rose by 8,300 compared to the previous year, with the fertility rate increasing from 0.72 to 0.75.

                    Oh no, facts, your only weakness.