• Tiger666@lemmy.ca
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    Social programs are not socialism.

    Socialism: when workers control the means of production.

    Means of production: anything that is used to create something by a worker.

    Social programs: state run programs that benefit some or all of society. e.g. welfare or employment insurance.

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      So many things that people use and access are owned by the state in places like Norway. One example, hospitals. This is the socialism Americans rail against. You are putting socialism with communism, which they are not, which wants people to collectively own things like the means of production. You have confused yourself amidst all the propaganda.

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        Maybe look up the definition of socialism and stop making things up.

        I’m not the one confusing social programs with socialism. Marx did not advocate for healthcare for all he advocated for workers controlling the means of production. Get a dictionary and use it.

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        Being owned by the state also doesn’t make for socialism. The government in the US owns many things, and they are the furthest from socialism that you can get.

        State capitalism is still capitalism.