• hypnicjerk@lemmy.world
    952·
    10 days ago

    “The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.”

    getting outraged over this nonsense says so much more about you than it does about OOP having a giggle.

        • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
          31·
          9 days ago

          Education is an alternative to democracy?

          • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
            22·
            8 days ago

            Either you don’t get it or you’re being intentionally obtuse.

            Education is kind of required for a democracy to function effectively in this new age of global communication. Where previously every village had an idiot, now every idiot has a village, And without good education and good critical thinking, this is an expanding and compounding problem.

            As such, democracy is doomed and societies that are spiraling will continue to spiral until whatever else forms, forms

            I’m guessing some sort of dystopian oligarchy, since society’s in this state seem to be incapable of not handing over land wealth, power and decision-making control to just a few wealthy individuals.

            • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
              21·
              8 days ago

              Someone asked what the alternative to democracy was. They answered “education”.

      • untakenusername@sh.itjust.works
        29·
        9 days ago

        algocracy could work, having tons of automated systems in the decision making process.

        doesnt have to be ai, and there could be people involved too, but more machines isnt a bad idea

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
          12·
          9 days ago

          Dangerous people are identified as a young age and are placed in a virtual reality where they can do no harm and live out their narcissists fantasies, and we don’t have to deal with them.

          • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
            21·
            9 days ago

            how do you define dangerous? what’s the cut off point? is stealing a water bottle from a homeless person the same as tealing it from walmart? same item technically

            • Lka1988@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              8 days ago

              IMO its not about the item, but the intent. I know we’re getting into hypotheticals and rhetoricals, but IMO, the line is doing anything that causes harm to another living being without feeling remorse.

              Stealing a water bottle from a megacorp doesn’t harm anybody. Stealing a water bottle from a homeless person can mean life or death.

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
        41·
        8 days ago

        I saw it pre-gamergate (pre-elevatorgate even)) in skeptic groups, making fun of “immune strenghtening exercises”, meaning you expose yourself to germs on purpose and it was supposed to boost your immune system in the long run, not needing vaccines at all.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    374·
    10 days ago

    This guy thinking real life works by rpg rules where blocking or being hit slowly raises your defense stat.

    If this idiot had gone from… a .22 pellet … skipped over .22short, skipped over .22lr… and gone to .223?

    Thats a fucking necked, rifle cartidge.

    Something like 15x the energy in ft-lbs or joules than a .22 short.

    He would have blown a good chunk of his leg off.

    … Anybody ever see photos of the aftermath of when a SWAT squad is stacked up prior to a door breach, and one of em accidentally fires a round into the back of their buddy’s knee?

    You lose your fucking leg, amputated at the knee.

    I could find and NSFW spoiler post the images I’ve seen, but I do not want to look up nor see that shit again.

    • hobovision@lemm.ee
      36·
      9 days ago

      It wasn’t 223, check the post again. His goal was 223 but he went to the hospital from 22 short.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        72·
        9 days ago

        … Yes, that is why I said:

        If this idiot had gone from… a .22 pellet … skipped over .22short, skipped over .22lr… and gone to .223?

        Did you not read the second sentence?

        • hobovision@lemm.ee
          55·
          9 days ago

          Oh I guess I’m confused how your first sentence is related to the rest of your post?

          Sorry, but that “if” is doing a lot of work when the rest of it seems like you’re building a strawman to beat.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            66·
            9 days ago

            -.-

            The first sentence is a general description of this guy’s approach to reality.

            Everything after that is an explanation of a hypothetical scenario, meant to further illustrate the danger of this way of thinking.

            …

            It isn’t a strawman.

            A strawman is when you intentionally distort a person’s argent or beliefs into a bastardized version that is easier to argue against or criticize.

            Neither is this an attempt to… slander this person by spreading a false version of the story.

            He obviously did not shoot a .223 into his leg at point blank, I never said he did, I in fact made it explicitly clear that this had not happened with the sentence I quoted.

            If he had actually shot himself with a .223… best case scenario, he misses bone, and loses about a golfball of flesh.

            If he had fired a .223 into his own leg and hit bone, the bone would have shattered and then torn up even more of muscle tissue… possibly necessitating an amputation.

            And in really any of these scenarios, with any caliber, he’s lucky he didn’t hit his femoral or other major artery, because he could have bled to unconsciousness in 15 minutes or less, and then died.

            …

            But anyway, see how I used ‘if,’ in those above sentences about hypotheticals?

            Yes, ‘if’ does in fact greatly modify a sentence’s meaning… that is how English works.

            I am not building a strawman to defeat.

            I am laying out a hypothetical that shows what could have happened if his leg shot with a .22 short managed to be a through and through, or not cause him so much pain as to convince him to stop trying to buff his natural bullet resistance stat irl.

            …

            Entirely serious question: Have you not graduated high school, or maybe English is not your first language?

            You don’t seem to have very good reading comprehension; you are missing words and unable to parse a somewhat, but not very, complex sentence structure.

            • hobovision@lemm.ee
              55·
              9 days ago

              “His way of thinking wouldn’t work because if he skipped a bunch of steps in his process, it would blow off his leg” isn’t the great argument you think it is.

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                52·
                9 days ago

                Ok, yep, you can’t read.

                At no point did I attempt to make an argument going into why his way of thinking is fundamentally flawed.

                I simply gave an example of what would happen if he had continued on his given path.

                I’m sorry, but do you require an anatomy/biology/physics lesson as the only acceptable way to clown on an idiotic 4chan post?

                Why do you insist on interpreting what I said as an ‘argument’, as if it … isn’t common fucking knowledge that shooting yourself with a gun is an extremely stupid idea?

                … Are you the OP from this 4chan post?

                Do you need to have it broken down, step by step, why shooting yourself with a gun, is going to permanently injure you, likely quite severely?

                That there is no evidence to support the idea that shooting yourself with progressively higher caliber/grain coint cartridges is going to result in you gaining some kind of resistance to bullets?

                • hobovision@lemm.ee
                  25·
                  9 days ago

                  Do you need to have it broken down, step by step, why shooting yourself with a gun, is going to permanently injure you, likely quite severely?

                  No, I mean the guy in the post demonstrates it pretty clearly. Going from 22 pellets to 22 short was basically going from “this won’t maim you” to “this could kill you at close range”. Could he have used something else between those energies to further develop a callous tough enough to stop a 22 short? Ehh probably not, but going on about how a 223 will blow off his leg isn’t a good argument for why this method won’t work. It’s either a strawman or a non sequitor depending how you present it.

                  It’s like you’re making this argument: Paper will never stop a 223 bullet and here’s why. 10 layers stopped a small pellet sure, and 50 layers stopped a 22 pellet. But if you just make it 100 layers and shoot it with a 223 then it will explode because a 223 is at least 100 times more powerful and that’s only double the paper! No amount of paper could stop a 223.

  • DaddleDew@lemmy.world
    17·
    10 days ago

    They don’t dig the bullets out usually because it causes more damage for no reason. Stop believing everything you read someone say on 4chan.

  • arc@lemm.ee
    7·
    8 days ago

    What an idiot. Everyone knows you can make yourself invulnerable to bullets with blessed magic amulets available on the internet.