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Write your MP ASAP. This bill is unacceptable, unconstitutional, and unCanadian.
Ah there we go. Now I understand what you mean. Thank you!
As far as postal stuff goes, don’t they only have the right to open packages, but not letters? And I don’t think they have the right to get all our digital personal information either. At least not like they do in the U.S. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
The “unreasonable” part of Section 8 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is what protects us, but that doesn’t apply if you’re under investigation for crimes and stuff like a computer needs to be accessed as part of that investigation.
It does apply. A warrant is required for confiscating and searching mail and computer equipment. It sounds here like it won’t be required.
I will repeat that the Canadian Government isn’t spewing the same vitriol against immigrants as the American Government, so neither the wording nor the content of the bill suggests some military backed deportation scheme.
Maybe not, but it lays the ground for it though.
In any case, as the guy mentioned, the bill isn’t ALL bad. But there are some sections that can be worrisome and prone to exploitation.
As far as postal stuff goes, don’t they only have the right to open packages, but not letters?
They have the ability to open letters over 30 g for a very long time. Bill C37 (from 2017) gave border officers power to open letters less than 30 g, because criminals were sending fentanyl over in small bags, and that closed the loophole (read here)
I haven’t heard of this being abused over the last 8 years, so why the assumption that it’s all of a sudden going to start now?
And I don’t think they have the right to get all our digital personal information either. At least not like they do in the U.S. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
If you are being investigated for crimes against children online, then your digital assets can be seized and combed through. This new bill strengthens that in this context.
The “unreasonable” part of Section 8 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is what protects us, but that doesn’t apply if you’re under investigation for crimes and stuff like a computer needs to be accessed as part of that investigation.
It does apply. A warrant is required for confiscating and searching mail and computer equipment. It sounds here like it won’t be required.
I honestly didn’t read anything in the bill that says that warrants are not required for things that they would have currently been.
In the case of the mail, what used to happen if there are suspected drugs being sent by mail (under 30g), the officer would have to get permission from either the sender or the receiver of the letter before opening it. If no response was given, they would send it back.
The problem is that criminals banked on the fact that some would get through, and because others envelops were being returned, the drugs wouldn’t be seized and nobody was getting caught. This new bill tries to fix that.
Maybe not, but it lays the ground for it though.
I get it. There’s always a chance for abusing this power. Maybe not now, but in 10 years.
Here’s the thing: good laws can be abused by any corrupt government. And corrupt governments can always introduce bad laws (see the States).
Our current government seems to be doing this in good faith, so we have to take them at.
If Carney was giving public events saying that immigrants are all murderers and rapists, and we’ll deport them by the millions, well… that would be a different story! I guess thank god we don’t have a majority conservative federal government.
Yeah that’s my problem with this. The laws definitely can be abused. You think you can trust the government, but can you trust the police? Because in the end, they’re the ones who will be doing the abuse.
And if you eventually don’t like the government that’s in power, and want to protest and act against it, that’s when these laws turn against you.
We definitely should not sacrifice our privacy, rights, and freedoms in exchange for security. We learned that in 2001 after 9/11 and we shouldn’t make the same mistake again just to make Trump happy.
Ah there we go. Now I understand what you mean. Thank you!
As far as postal stuff goes, don’t they only have the right to open packages, but not letters? And I don’t think they have the right to get all our digital personal information either. At least not like they do in the U.S. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
It does apply. A warrant is required for confiscating and searching mail and computer equipment. It sounds here like it won’t be required.
Maybe not, but it lays the ground for it though.
In any case, as the guy mentioned, the bill isn’t ALL bad. But there are some sections that can be worrisome and prone to exploitation.
They have the ability to open letters over 30 g for a very long time. Bill C37 (from 2017) gave border officers power to open letters less than 30 g, because criminals were sending fentanyl over in small bags, and that closed the loophole (read here)
I haven’t heard of this being abused over the last 8 years, so why the assumption that it’s all of a sudden going to start now?
If you are being investigated for crimes against children online, then your digital assets can be seized and combed through. This new bill strengthens that in this context.
I honestly didn’t read anything in the bill that says that warrants are not required for things that they would have currently been.
In the case of the mail, what used to happen if there are suspected drugs being sent by mail (under 30g), the officer would have to get permission from either the sender or the receiver of the letter before opening it. If no response was given, they would send it back.
The problem is that criminals banked on the fact that some would get through, and because others envelops were being returned, the drugs wouldn’t be seized and nobody was getting caught. This new bill tries to fix that.
I get it. There’s always a chance for abusing this power. Maybe not now, but in 10 years.
Here’s the thing: good laws can be abused by any corrupt government. And corrupt governments can always introduce bad laws (see the States).
Our current government seems to be doing this in good faith, so we have to take them at.
If Carney was giving public events saying that immigrants are all murderers and rapists, and we’ll deport them by the millions, well… that would be a different story! I guess thank god we don’t have a majority conservative federal government.
Yeah that’s my problem with this. The laws definitely can be abused. You think you can trust the government, but can you trust the police? Because in the end, they’re the ones who will be doing the abuse.
And if you eventually don’t like the government that’s in power, and want to protest and act against it, that’s when these laws turn against you.
We definitely should not sacrifice our privacy, rights, and freedoms in exchange for security. We learned that in 2001 after 9/11 and we shouldn’t make the same mistake again just to make Trump happy.