• PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The cancerous greed of the capitalist class is crushing the working class. The workers should fight back somehow. Maybe we should look to the past for ideas. Maybe that way the monied oppressors will remember why collective bargaining is in their best interest. The alternative is the “v” word.

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      8 months ago

      Can you point me to these people that are saying the economy is all hunky dory and nothing is wrong? Because I keep seeing this as if it is being pushed, but I’ve never seen it actually being pushed.

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        8 months ago

        According to Biden are doing great economically. The news keeps repeating it too. Us down here on the bottom know all bullshit. House of cards getting ready to fall.

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          8 months ago

          You just repeated the empty claim. I understand that this is what you think is happening, but I’m curious as to some actual examples of it happening.

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            8 months ago

            Do you not shop for necessities, or pay rent or a mortgage. Do you get gas or pay bills. Prices are out of control and pay is stagnant. Also work especially in construction has come to a stand still and it’s effecting a lot of different industries.

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              Well, first pay is not stagnant. Wage growth is actually outpacing inflation now. I know that’s of little comfort to those who have fallen behind and need to catch up, or haven’t benefitted from the wage growth, but you are factually incorrect here.

              And you see what I did there? I made a point and then backed it up with a source.

              But more importantly, this isn’t my point. The original implicit claim is that people are pushing that the economy is fine and there are no problems, and then people followed that up by saying everyone is pushing that the economy is great, explicitly Biden saying so. I’ve not seen this, and you still haven’t provided anyone actually doing so.

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                The problem on your chart is the giant section where inflation peaked at 9% and wage growth was under 6%.

                That means a pay cut of 3%, and while inflation is reduced NOW, that doesn’t mean prices are going DOWN, they are simply going up less fast than they were when inflation was 9%.

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                  8 months ago

                  Yes, I understand this point. Which is why I explicitly said “I know that’s of little comfort to those who have fallen behind and need to catch up.” I know that your point is always what follows, which is why I preempted it.

                  Additionally, I was responding to a claim that wages have stagnated. This is not true, as my link shows, even if we are more strictly talking about inflation adjusted wages. So the link doesn’t have a “problem.”

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                8 months ago

                That article and you are full of shit. I don’t care how many “jobs” you create if they all pay shit wages it means nothing.

                You can site all the fucking sources you want I live in reality and here in Oklahoma one cheapest states to live in people are struggling to pay rent and buy food. So fuck off with her neoliberal bull shit.

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                  8 months ago

                  Again, this all stems from me asking for someone to back up the claim that Biden is saying the economy is perfectly fine and there are no issues.

                  You brought up an unrelated claim, and are now attacking me personally for pointing out that the numbers don’t back up your claim, by using your extremely limited anecdotal experience as proof.

                  This is some real bizzaro world shit right here.