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17th house Democrat calls for Biden to step down. Post NATO-news conference, 6:30 Pacific Time

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    At the time, the information pointed towards that. Congress members asking a member of their own party to step down publicly is fucking unprecedented. The advantage of the incumbent is offering unity to the party by providing an unambiguous candidate to rally behind - once the incumbent can’t offer that, he loses much of the advantage that he would otherwise have. As information available to me changed, so too did my view of the best way to move forward.

    Bro I hate to break it to you, but nothing about Biden changed from that debate. He’s had the slightest, margin of error dip in polling. The reality is that he’s been losing this whole time and you’ve been in complete denial of that.

    Biden needed to be at 55% in the aggregate of polling to be cruising to a W comfortably. 50% is tight, but very doable. 45% and Biden is struggling, kind-of landslide losing territory. Biden hasn’t polled at 45% in 450 days.

    Because of your denial others have become comfortable denying material reality as well, and now down vote anything that doesn’t agree with their insane bias that Biden is somehow the best candidate when at no point in the past 450 days has he even been competitive.

    YOU helped build that. YOU normalized that. YOU made it acceptable to walk around in abject denial of reality for 6 months and and promoted that others do the same.

    Not some one else. YOU.

    Its quite fucking literally how r/TheDonald started. Take some fucking responsibility and have some accountability. Fix the damage you caused.

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      Bro I hate to break it to you, but nothing about Biden changed from that debate.

      He lost the confidence of his own party. I believe I mentioned that. Quite prominently. Several times.

      He’s had the slighted, margin of error dip in polling.

      I didn’t say “The polls changed, so I changed my mind.” Perhaps you should reread what I wrote.

      The reality is that he’s been losing this whole time and you’ve been in complete denial of that.

      He was in a bad position, that’s not the same as not being our best chance at victory. I believed he was previously despite his poor polling.

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        He was in a bad position, that’s not the same as not being our best chance at victory. I believed he was previously despite his poor polling.

        And you were really, really, really fucking wrong. Wrong in such a way that the net effect has been that you worked to prevent a real conversation about what was happening.

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          And you were really, really, really fucking wrong. Wrong in such a way that the net effect has been that you worked to prevent a real conversation about what was happening.

          Yes. I was really fucking wrong.

          I made a call with imperfect information, and I made the wrong one. Fuck, I’m still making a call with imperfect information. I might be wrong now for all I fucking know. All I can do is go forward with all my energy with what I believe to be the correct course of action.

          You want me to say that my judgement was subpar in regarding which sources to trust and how to weigh them? That’s fair, I won’t argue against that, clearly I fucked up. But “You were vocal in the need for unity behind one candidate in a FPTP system, and the one with no real challengers in his party’s primary is our only choice” is not one I will apologize for.

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              I wouldn’t call it Blue MAGA, and I find the term stupid. They’re operating on inertia, like I was - it’s not a cult-like worship of Biden. It’s just the belief that he was the best shot.

              But yes. I intend on arguing forcefully towards pro-Biden commenters on the need to change candidates now that Biden has lost the unity that an incumbent is supposed to give, especially one who ran in his primary without any major challengers. We’ve fucked up and now we have to unfuck this mess, fast.

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                Thank you. Its only by pointing out their denialism around material reality one by one, and fuck its been exhausting work.