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        Do you reject that in the Trump/Biden election…

        CNN & NYT shut down all progressive issues, and voices that they could, as completely as they could ( & even admitted it later, one of 'em, in an interview, which is where I got their term “shut down” from ),

        …so that ONLY the Biden Institution would be??


        I’d wondered what the hell kind of “journalism” was going on,…

        …then when I found out that it had been deliberate propaganda “journalism” suppressing as much as necessary to push their preferred institution, on their part,

        …and to prevent Bernie Sanders from having any significance…

        Dear, fuck, that’s was low, of them.


        Journalism & what they do are “non-intersecting sets”, nowadays, as seems to be the case with nearly all “journalism”.


        I think that Ground.News is categorically better, but don’t know, for sure…

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      Blue Maga or BlueAnon is the phenomenon where die-hard liberals sometimes fall into similar cult of personality, rejection of reality, and conspiracy behaviors that Trump supporters engage in. It’s not an entirely fair comparison, since MAGA is way more delusional, but the parallels are definitely there.

      For example, a recent BlueAnon phenomenon I’ve seen is people claiming that the press is manufacturing the concern over Biden’s debate performance while ignoring recently released Epstien documents that show Trump assaulted a teen girl. In reality, the documents are from an 8 year old lawsuit that was dismissed, and the reaction to Biden is pretty organic. So, it’s not as delusional as QAnon’s satanic pedophile cabal, but it’s still pretty detached from reality, and demonizes the press.

      The Mueller investigation was when Blue MAGA peaked. BlueAnon peddlers like the Krassenstein brothers breathless reported on how Mueller had evidence that Putin had crafted Trump into the perfect Manchurian candidate, and it would soon be the beginning of the end for Trump. These outlandish claims, which often got reported by MSM outlets, made the actual Mueller report (which didn’t prove a Trump/Russia connection, but found President could be charged with obstruction of justice) seem underwhelming, which is why it was eventually labeled a, “nothing-burger.” This Louise Mensch tweet from 2017 is a great encapsulation of Blue Maga:

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          No, it’s really not whataboutism. I first heard about it from the QAA Podcast, which examines at right-wing extremism with a focus on QAnon, in about 2017 or 2018 (EDIT: actually, now that I think about it, it was probably closer to 2021/2022). They did an episode examining BlueAnon grifters and how they employ the same basic strategies as the the QAnon influencers that used to, “decode,” Q posts. Since then, I’ve heard BlueAnon or Blue MAGA come in and out of fashion a few times.

          Disinformation will spread in any echo chamber, which is why it’s always important to examine if what you believe is true, or just something you’d like to believe. For example, my post explaining Blue MAGA has been downvoted 19 times, but you are the only one who’s attempted to refute what I’ve said, and your response has been to call Blue Anon a right-wing psy-op and imply I’m a Russian agent, without evidence for either claim. Does that seem like reality, or a narrative you’ve constructed to reject reality?

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      On Reddit, r/joebiden shadow bans anyone who doesn’t fall in line. If you question Biden’s fitness or faltering polls, you’re gone. And they’re too much of cowards to even tell you that you’re banned.

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      Its those 16 downvotes:

      https://www.dailydot.com/debug/blue-maga/

      Its a cult that has formed around the refusing to question of Biden as candidate, his capabilities as candidate.

      Its very very very similar to the earliest stages of MAGA, which found its footing in r/TheDonald. An abject denial of any conversation they don’t ‘approve’ of, cult of personality, abusive, dergatory shaming, brow-beating to those that disagree with them, and most fundamentally: a complete dismissal of objective reality.

      Its how a cult forms. We’ve seen it before if you were on Reddit at that time. Its like, shockingly similar to the earliest days of the MAGA cult.