• brokenlcd@feddit.it
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    It seems like a flavour of the rubber duck method; by trying to explain it to a third party, you think about it in a different way and find a solution.

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      Ha, I never knew this had an actual name.

      I thought it was known as talking to a brick wall, ie. if you have a issue talk to a brick wall and you’ll get the answer

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        It’s got more than a name, too: it’s got a Wikipedia page! Part of my job is IT support for normies, and I love sharing that with clients (because of course they’ve not heard of it). Usually gets a laugh, and I like to think they adopt the term and “rubber duck” things in their daily life thereafter.

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    To be fair, I’ve written countless stack overflow posts detailing my problems in hope someone would be able to spot the mistake or error only for me to realize what it was along the way and never even submitting it.

    And I didn’t even need a 🦆 for it

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      Education has really failed to impress upon people the importance of asking questions. It’s amazing how much time is wasted on making people learn answers to questions they don’t even know how to ask.

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        The most valuable tool I ever got (as a tutor/teacher) was Socratic Questioning. Students not only benefit from its application but it also helps to impress upon them the value (and relative skill) to asking thoughtful questions.

        I don’t mean to sound like a Mom for Liberty, but to my mind, the American public education system (probably others) is not about developing intelligence but rather preparing children for work and keeping them busy/safe while their parents work, and I’d argue it’s not very good at its primary function. The ones who escape with curiosity, capacity, and confidence intact are woefully rare if you care about power to the people and thankfully rare if you care about keeping people easy to control.

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      Yeah, it’s a well known technique in programming called “rubber duck debugging”.

      The process of explaining the situation forces you to think about it in a different way, which can help you with the debugging.

      But, nobody actually credits the duck when it works. It’s weird that this guy seems to want to credit ChatGPT

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    A problem well stated is a problem half-solved.

    Charles Kettering

    Charles Franklin Kettering (August 29, 1876 – November 25, 1958) sometimes known as Charles Fredrick Kettering[1] was an American inventor, engineer, businessman, and the holder of 186 patents.[2] He was a founder of Delco, and was head of research at General Motors from 1920 to 1947. Among his most widely used automotive developments were the electrical starting motor[3] and leaded gasoline.[4] In association with the DuPont Chemical Company, he was also responsible for the invention of Freon refrigerant for refrigeration and air conditioning systems. At DuPont he also was responsible for the development of Duco lacquers and enamels, the first practical colored paints for mass-produced automobiles. While working with the Dayton-Wright Company he developed the “Bug” aerial torpedo, considered the world’s first aerial missile.[5] He led the advancement of practical, lightweight two-stroke diesel engines, revolutionizing the locomotive and heavy equipment industries. In 1927, he founded the Kettering Foundation, a non-partisan research foundation, and was featured on the cover of Time magazine in January 1933.

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    Doesn’t have anything to do with AI. This is normal in any context where you’re asking another party for help.

    But sure, people who use AI have never considered thinking before /s

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    That’s like how I cheated through every single test in school I’ve ever taken. I literally just paid attention to what the teacher said, wrote the answers down, wrote down more answers from the book, and then read them a couple times until I remembered them. I’d come in and just write down all those answers on the test and they’d never suspect a thing. I’ve still never been caught to this day and I even use it in my life outside of school.

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    Back in the days of usenet if I had a Linux problem I would carefully research the issue while composing a post asking how to solve it. I needed to make sure I covered every possible option so that people would know just how odd the problem was and that I had taken every reasonable step to fix it. And this was how I hardly ever had to post anything because this process almost always found the answer.

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    99% of the questions I was going to post to stack overflow were solved before I hit post. Something about really having to think through your problem to give people the most complete information about your problem as possible makes it easier to find the solution.

    I did just get a rubber ducky and I didn’t know what I should do with it till now.

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      I’ve seen some people on Twitter complain that their coworkers use ChatGPT to write emails or summarize text. To me this just echoes the complaints made by previous generations against phones and calculators. There’s a lot of vitriol directed at anyone who isn’t staunchly anti AI and dares to use a convenient tool that’s avaliable to them.

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        Case in point with you already having a downvote xD

        Edit: Lmao

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      People who are using it to solve problems which require equivalent effort of writing a sufficient prompt and just directly solving it without AI at all for sure are AI folk.

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    They have bumbled backwards into a new flavor of rubber duck debugging. Considering the likelihood of a rubber duck bullshitting you, I know which I’ll be interrogating.

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    They are 10y behind, I discovered thinking while 12y old and have been igoring it for 20y. Comes handy in a pinch, leaving all others mindblown.

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    What tech support department doesn’t have the “ask the stuffed bear on the counter in the corner out loud your question before asking tech support” system in place ?

      • Yes. Or an orb containing bouncing lasers on its unique internal surface containing geometrical matrix identities it can use to communicate advanced concepts to you in the form of energy. Check out how Dream plays Minecraft (or Minetest) right now. That’s still all based on cubic fractals that store energy, just like the Mandelbrot Set or a God, or even a God of gaps that can explain things and “spread enlightment through history”.

        The future is all laser orbs and I think I can have a future with a loving God right now.

        Ever watched Haruhi or Red Dwarf?