PARIS—“Do I really have to answer that question? I’m certainly not voting for the person leading the Republican Party.” That was the response of communist icon Angela Davis when a journalist asked about her intentions for the 2024 U.S.
Good news! You will too! You are a member of a society that is all participating. Just because you pretend like you have better morals by not actually participating in a meaningful way doesn’t mean you aren’t complicit. If someone is about to be murdered and you don’t stop them because “you don’t want to get your hand dirty” then you made a choice to do nothing. Doing nothing (or meaningfully nothing) doesn’t keep you clean, it makes you complicit with anything that happens, not fighting against the worst possible outcome.
Good news! You will too! You are a member of a society that is all participating.
Don’t confuse being a victim yourself of your authoritarian state wrongdoings with actively endorsing and supporting your government.
not actually participating in a meaningful way
Not supporting fascists (israel government) or these behind them is a much more meaningful way to help things for good than directly endorsing and supporting them.
If someone is about to be murdered and you don’t stop them because “you don’t want to get your hand dirty” then you made a choice to do nothing.
Kids are being murdered in gaza right now as we talk and what you are doing is advocating for the perpetrators, again shame on you.
Not supporting fascists (israel government) or these behind them is a much more meaningful way to help things for good than directly endorsing and supporting them.
What does not supporting them do? Give me an actual answer of how it effects them in a way that’s different from you not existing at all.
Kids are being murdered in gaza right now as we talk and what you are doing is advocating for the perpetrators, again shame on you.
Women are dying in the US because they can’t get treatment for pregnancy related complications. Trans people are being denied Healthcare. People are starving and unhoused.
No matter what, everything won’t be fixed. Even if you got to hand pick a perfect candidate, they wouldn’t or couldn’t fix everything. You always only have the choice between what the best outcome will be, not the perfect outcome. Not making a choice makes you a participant in whatever outcome others pick for you.
Shame on you if things get worse because you wanted to pretend moral superiority. Everyone who gets hurt or dies after this is on you (too). Actual morality is a little more complicated than what you’re pretending. It’s a very complex and diverse subject, and there really isn’t black and white.
Women are dying in the US because they can’t get treatment for pregnancy related complications. Trans people are being denied Healthcare. People are starving and unhoused.
And you are advocating for the government in charge! Shame on you! If someone gets hurt you voted for it, don’t you try to put the blame on others, you are supporting this shit more than everyone else
People who say “Kamela Harris supports genocide!” keep forgetting Trump literally put the Israeli Embassy in Jerusalem and wants to nuke everything…
I randomly remembered that Ben Shapiro claimed multiple times that radiation was a myth liberals made up to get people to not use nukes… These Right Wingers are crazy
Running for elections against someone who is even worst than you doesn’t magically make you less of a criminal, especially when you are supporting a genocide where dozen of kids are being murdered daily.
The yanks are crazy. Fix your goddamn country. Every four years you pick between the carrot and the stick and then proceed with the exact same external policy. You guys sucks ass. The angry part of me hopes for a civil war in the US. After all the time you coup’ed foreign countries, it would be a nice find-out moment.
Oh, you only want no genocide and not no killing? Do you have a soul? You’re such a monster!
We can go on forever saying some things are worse than others. Eventually you have to accept you don’t have a choice of perfection, and you never will.
You do have the choice. You could bomb tel aviv like we did to belgrade when they did genocide. You could massively boycott the elections since none of the candidates are above geneva convention line. You are a coward.
The reality is that there are thousand of choices but propaganda makes you believe there’s only two. The world and society weren’t build by the red and blue party.
Aspirationally, of course there are more than two choices. Realistically, only two of those have a chance at success. The US electoral system has ensured this. The way to fix the system is to elect those who want to change it for the better, not those who wish to destroy it and all it stands for.
Realistically until elections are over everyone has the same change of winning because ballot polls are hypothetical. Voting is not the only way you have to change things for good. The same way there’s people advocating for corrupted parties you can waste your energies on something more useful.
Sure, every voter in the country could suddenly and radically change their minds about who to vote for, but we both know that isn’t going to happen, because it’s never happened. The only time that a third party has ever upset an established party is when the Republicans threw out the Whigs before the American Civil War. They did that through years of lead-up and messaging, along with a growing emancipation movement. You’re not changing anyone’s minds that radically this close to an election.
Believe it or not, I don’t spend most of my day voting or responding to internet comments.
And as you smile smugly to yourself about your moral superiority for choosing philosophy over the unfortunate situation that is reality, women die due to lack of reasonable healthcare, minorities and those deemed “deviant” by fundamentalists are oppressed, and the genocide in Palestine is ramped up and overtly supported by American interests because the right doesn’t do this kind of philosophical masturbation and thus handily wins the election.
Look, I want to see the end of the binary too, but only an ignorant person thinks you can win a race by being dropped off at the finish line and walking 2 steps. The end of the binary will not come from a surprise upset Presidential election out of nowhere. It just won’t. Not today, not ever. If you actually give a shit about making a change and not just feeling above it all personally, you’d be out on the streets in non election years working to legitimize third party candidates in viable lower and local races where they can win and affect change outside the party system. And if you’re somewhere where that has already happened, you’d be working with them to extend their reach, pushing their influence further. Or you’d be running locally as a third-party candidate yourself.
And if you are already doing that, first off thank you so much, but secondly, then you must understand what a difficult uphill battle the fight is and more importantly you must understand you can’t just skip ahead to the finish line.
You mention that voting is not the only way to change things for good and you are absolutely right. Hell, I’d say it’s not even one of the primary ways. But what voting is is one of the highest return on investment ways of effecting change; the amount of effect it takes to vote is beyond nominal, practically insignificant, yet the consequences have significant real world impact. Not smartly utilizing your vote is like being hungry in a cabin in the woods and taking a knife out hunt a wild boar for food when there is a literal ham sandwich in a ziploc bag in the fridge waiting for you.
Nobody asks you to fix America, they asked you what choice you would make.
Here are the options:
-You can vote for a candidate that represents 10,000 people dying
-You can vote for a candidate that represents 5,000 people dying
-You can abstain and guarantee that the candidate that represents 10,000 people dying wins.
These are your options. There are no other options. So maybe you value your own personal moral integrity more than the lives of 5,000 people, but any reasonable person will see that the second option is the only viable choice if you actually want to be decent.
I thought the reason why you guys had guns was for this kind of situation. Use them. A governement that gives you the choice between genocide and genocide sounds tyranical to me.
Cool man, you successfully recognized that class divide exists in the US just as much as anywhere else and that the ruling class are a minority whose decisions don’t represent the working class. Kudos to you for your next-level observation skills!
Here’s the thing though: even if we do spark up the fires of revolution tomorrow, you know what? It’s probably gonna take more than a month. In the meantime, there is still going to be an American president and there is still going to be an election the fate of which will still have real world impact immediately, including in regards to the Palestinian genocide. Which means even if we’re marching up on the White House in victory 8 months (imagining an impossibly best-case fictional scenario here) for now we still have the weight of the choice for President and the inordinate amount of very real lives that decision impacts, both domestically and abroad. So again, any decent person will make the moral choice for harm reduction; whether they acknowledge more needs to be on the personal level to solve the greater issues or not.
Stop letting your childish hateboner for America steal all the blood flow from your brain.
That’s more of a general human trait than an American one. Yes, Americans are very fond of their exceptionalism, but valuing the lives of your own tribe and kin more than those of others is something most mammals share. I dont want war anywhere in the world. I hope you have a nice day.
That’s exactly the problem, no one can force Netanyahu to do anything. He’s complety off his rocker. He’s doing everything to stay in power, because the moment he’s not, the courts will go after him. That’s why he’s trying to appease both those pushing for peace (Yes, I actually mean Biden here) and the warmongers (Israeli right wingers). Notice how he hasn’t gotten all the hostages back? That’s on purpose. The longer the war goes on, the better for him.
Now, who do you rather want in the White House next year? A feeble old man who will go along with everything Bibi says? Or an experienced prosecutor who can put her foot down?
I’m sorry for your friends. They need to leave, now. If war came to my doorstep, that’s what I would do.
That’s exactly the problem, no one can force Netanyahu to do anything.
US government is supporting israel fascist government, they could have prevent the genocide by simply not arming israel to death and gifting them billions. They can still persuade israel government to stop by simply stopp aiding them but they are doing the opposite.
Please. When the serbs did genocide the NATO bombed Belgrade. Kadhaffi was gone in a week. You’re telling me the US doesn’t have leverage against Israel? Come on now. Quit giving them weapons otherwise you guys are complicit, as simple as that.
Dude, I understand that America is fucking awful right now but don’t bullshit about shit you don’t understand… Some people are just paying lip service or stalling but Bernie is really fucking trying.
What about my friend in lebannon who’s parent getting bombed with white phosphorus, idiot? Fuck you u twatyank. I hope the israeli war gets so bad you guys get drafter and you see your children sent there never to come back. That’d maybe teach you not to support the war machine.
The US gave them the 2 tons bomb that just exploded on an hospital. I don’t give a shit about trump. You are american. Trump is your fault and your responsability. You fix trump. You fight against trump instead of being a little coward thinking he will stop fascism by casting his little ballot. And then you put the warcrimers in jail and drop the key.
Yanks are monsters omg “a little less genocide”. Do you guys fucking hear yourself?
Lol. What a lot of effort it must be to project your preconceptions on some rando on the internet. How do you know I don’t give a shit? That seeing these things doesn’t hurt me to my core? What do you want me to do, go out and start murdering politicians? Sit down and think for a few minutes before writing your next comment.
If you only see the choices where you don’t sacrifice anything (between something prepared and served for you), you don’t have a choice.
“Slightly less painful genocide” will not even be slightly less painful. But people there sacrifice lives, while you won’t even sacrifice effort (and future efforts in court) to do something of a long list of actions which constitute political terrorism. You are not willing to even break law to defend people who are not being just abused, but murdered en masse in horrible ways.
Then you pretend with that cowardly logic that these are all choices you have, so you don’t even want to take responsibility for choosing the easy and safe path of doing nothing.
People on the internet will really be like ‘you believe in voting? that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, firebombing a Walmart’ and then not firebomb a Walmart.
you won’t even sacrifice effort (and future efforts in court) to do something of a long list of actions which constitute political terrorism. You are not willing to even break law to defend people who are not being just abused, but murdered en masse in horrible ways.
Big words for a small man on the internet. Do you have receipts from your actions? I’d love to see them.
You don’t know me. You don’t know what I have or have not done. Voting and direct action are not mutually exclusive.
Big words for a small man on the internet. Do you have receipts from your actions? I’d love to see them.
Pot calling the kettle black a bit ain’t ya.
I hope you do walk the walk to go along with your big talk, but take responsibility for your words too. Statements like yours gives people a reason to feel “good enough” about “slightly less genocide”. And if we all keep repeating the mantra “slightly less genocide”, we can feel “good enough” all the way to complete genocide.
Then we can all wear a big frown so everyone knows how upset we are about it.
But it could be a slightly less painful genocide if Kamala is in charge.
Are you joking? The situation is dire when people are patting themselves on the back for a “slightly less painful genocide” whatever the hell that means in practice.
The Adults In The Room are here to make Tough Decisions just like in muh TV slop and wouldn’t you know it, those Tough Decisions involve slaughtering the poor and vulnerable for the benefit of the rich. Anyone who thinks wanton slaughter of the poor is bad, actually, is just a Whiny Child who Doesn’t Understand muh Complexity and Nuance needs to Grow Up and Accept Reality, and anyway that’s why we need to Kill All The Jews Palestinians.
Grow a fucking spine. Or a conscience. Or both. Grow up and stop looking for a grown up to tell you how the world has to work.
No, it means recognizing a shitty situation and working to make it less shitty - the “I won’t vote for Harris because genocide” crowd are refusing to make a situation less shitty because they want the situation to not be shitty at all. Big problems don’t have easy solutions - in this case we can all see what a good action would be (stopping any offensive arms sales to Isreal) but the political situation is such that that’s not going to happen - we tried to make that happen and I’m deeply grateful to everyone who protested the DNC.
But, at the end of the day, Trump will accelerate the genocide. He’s the worst outcome.
“But genocide!” - Dude, it’s gonna be genocide either way. Voting for a third party or abstaining entirely isn’t going to change that.
But it could be a slightly less painful genocide if Kamala is in charge. Why not help make things marginally better?
Shame on you, you are complicit. You will go down in history as one of the person that supported this genocide.
Help make things better and stop supporting the government and parties who are fueling the genocide
Good news! You will too! You are a member of a society that is all participating. Just because you pretend like you have better morals by not actually participating in a meaningful way doesn’t mean you aren’t complicit. If someone is about to be murdered and you don’t stop them because “you don’t want to get your hand dirty” then you made a choice to do nothing. Doing nothing (or meaningfully nothing) doesn’t keep you clean, it makes you complicit with anything that happens, not fighting against the worst possible outcome.
Don’t confuse being a victim yourself of your authoritarian state wrongdoings with actively endorsing and supporting your government.
Not supporting fascists (israel government) or these behind them is a much more meaningful way to help things for good than directly endorsing and supporting them.
Kids are being murdered in gaza right now as we talk and what you are doing is advocating for the perpetrators, again shame on you.
What does not supporting them do? Give me an actual answer of how it effects them in a way that’s different from you not existing at all.
Women are dying in the US because they can’t get treatment for pregnancy related complications. Trans people are being denied Healthcare. People are starving and unhoused.
No matter what, everything won’t be fixed. Even if you got to hand pick a perfect candidate, they wouldn’t or couldn’t fix everything. You always only have the choice between what the best outcome will be, not the perfect outcome. Not making a choice makes you a participant in whatever outcome others pick for you.
Shame on you if things get worse because you wanted to pretend moral superiority. Everyone who gets hurt or dies after this is on you (too). Actual morality is a little more complicated than what you’re pretending. It’s a very complex and diverse subject, and there really isn’t black and white.
And you are advocating for the government in charge! Shame on you! If someone gets hurt you voted for it, don’t you try to put the blame on others, you are supporting this shit more than everyone else
People who say “Kamela Harris supports genocide!” keep forgetting Trump literally put the Israeli Embassy in Jerusalem and wants to nuke everything…
I randomly remembered that Ben Shapiro claimed multiple times that radiation was a myth liberals made up to get people to not use nukes… These Right Wingers are crazy
The current vice president of usa is supporting a genocide and that’s a fact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war
Running for elections against someone who is even worst than you doesn’t magically make you less of a criminal, especially when you are supporting a genocide where dozen of kids are being murdered daily.
It doesn’t make you less of a criminal, which no one is claiming, but it does make you the lesser criminal.
America supports genocide. The political situation there is just accidental.
I hope they pay one day.
The yanks are crazy. Fix your goddamn country. Every four years you pick between the carrot and the stick and then proceed with the exact same external policy. You guys sucks ass. The angry part of me hopes for a civil war in the US. After all the time you coup’ed foreign countries, it would be a nice find-out moment.
You’re a monster. “A slightly less painful genocide”? Do you hear yourself?
Welcome to the real world. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils. It’s terrible but it is also your best course of action.
Well the world will remember you guys voted for genocide :)
yep, and you voting for twice the amount of killing, when it wasn’t necessary. History, what a bitch
I’m not voting, idiot. Not a yank.
If I was I would shit on the ballot.
Some infinities are larger than others.
Most people prefer less genocide. It’s quite good for it to be scarce.
What about no genocide omg. Do you have a soul?
Oh, you only want no genocide and not no killing? Do you have a soul? You’re such a monster!
We can go on forever saying some things are worse than others. Eventually you have to accept you don’t have a choice of perfection, and you never will.
You do have the choice. You could bomb tel aviv like we did to belgrade when they did genocide. You could massively boycott the elections since none of the candidates are above geneva convention line. You are a coward.
Also I’m dyslexic so please avoid double negations everybody hate them
The reality is there are only two choices. Which will you choose?
The reality is that there are thousand of choices but propaganda makes you believe there’s only two. The world and society weren’t build by the red and blue party.
Aspirationally, of course there are more than two choices. Realistically, only two of those have a chance at success. The US electoral system has ensured this. The way to fix the system is to elect those who want to change it for the better, not those who wish to destroy it and all it stands for.
Realistically until elections are over everyone has the same change of winning because ballot polls are hypothetical. Voting is not the only way you have to change things for good. The same way there’s people advocating for corrupted parties you can waste your energies on something more useful.
Sure, every voter in the country could suddenly and radically change their minds about who to vote for, but we both know that isn’t going to happen, because it’s never happened. The only time that a third party has ever upset an established party is when the Republicans threw out the Whigs before the American Civil War. They did that through years of lead-up and messaging, along with a growing emancipation movement. You’re not changing anyone’s minds that radically this close to an election.
Believe it or not, I don’t spend most of my day voting or responding to internet comments.
And as you smile smugly to yourself about your moral superiority for choosing philosophy over the unfortunate situation that is reality, women die due to lack of reasonable healthcare, minorities and those deemed “deviant” by fundamentalists are oppressed, and the genocide in Palestine is ramped up and overtly supported by American interests because the right doesn’t do this kind of philosophical masturbation and thus handily wins the election.
Look, I want to see the end of the binary too, but only an ignorant person thinks you can win a race by being dropped off at the finish line and walking 2 steps. The end of the binary will not come from a surprise upset Presidential election out of nowhere. It just won’t. Not today, not ever. If you actually give a shit about making a change and not just feeling above it all personally, you’d be out on the streets in non election years working to legitimize third party candidates in viable lower and local races where they can win and affect change outside the party system. And if you’re somewhere where that has already happened, you’d be working with them to extend their reach, pushing their influence further. Or you’d be running locally as a third-party candidate yourself.
And if you are already doing that, first off thank you so much, but secondly, then you must understand what a difficult uphill battle the fight is and more importantly you must understand you can’t just skip ahead to the finish line.
You mention that voting is not the only way to change things for good and you are absolutely right. Hell, I’d say it’s not even one of the primary ways. But what voting is is one of the highest return on investment ways of effecting change; the amount of effect it takes to vote is beyond nominal, practically insignificant, yet the consequences have significant real world impact. Not smartly utilizing your vote is like being hungry in a cabin in the woods and taking a knife out hunt a wild boar for food when there is a literal ham sandwich in a ziploc bag in the fridge waiting for you.
US libs value Americans© lifes more than us nonyanks. Well I’m ever asked the same question, I will not show any solidarity with them. I hope you guys get the civil war you started in so many foreign countries.
So no actual answer then?
Look I’d buy some nutella and spread it on the ballot. I want to pass a message but I’m classy like that.
Anyway nobody’s asking me lmao fix your goddamn country.
Nobody asks you to fix America, they asked you what choice you would make.
Here are the options:
-You can vote for a candidate that represents 10,000 people dying
-You can vote for a candidate that represents 5,000 people dying
-You can abstain and guarantee that the candidate that represents 10,000 people dying wins.
These are your options. There are no other options. So maybe you value your own personal moral integrity more than the lives of 5,000 people, but any reasonable person will see that the second option is the only viable choice if you actually want to be decent.
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I thought the reason why you guys had guns was for this kind of situation. Use them. A governement that gives you the choice between genocide and genocide sounds tyranical to me.
Cool man, you successfully recognized that class divide exists in the US just as much as anywhere else and that the ruling class are a minority whose decisions don’t represent the working class. Kudos to you for your next-level observation skills!
Here’s the thing though: even if we do spark up the fires of revolution tomorrow, you know what? It’s probably gonna take more than a month. In the meantime, there is still going to be an American president and there is still going to be an election the fate of which will still have real world impact immediately, including in regards to the Palestinian genocide. Which means even if we’re marching up on the White House in victory 8 months (imagining an impossibly best-case fictional scenario here) for now we still have the weight of the choice for President and the inordinate amount of very real lives that decision impacts, both domestically and abroad. So again, any decent person will make the moral choice for harm reduction; whether they acknowledge more needs to be on the personal level to solve the greater issues or not.
Stop letting your childish hateboner for America steal all the blood flow from your brain.
That’s more of a general human trait than an American one. Yes, Americans are very fond of their exceptionalism, but valuing the lives of your own tribe and kin more than those of others is something most mammals share. I dont want war anywhere in the world. I hope you have a nice day.
Then please write your politician to tell them to force netanyahu to calm his tits.
My gf have friends in lebannon. She have friends from gaza. She hurts.
Please?
That’s exactly the problem, no one can force Netanyahu to do anything. He’s complety off his rocker. He’s doing everything to stay in power, because the moment he’s not, the courts will go after him. That’s why he’s trying to appease both those pushing for peace (Yes, I actually mean Biden here) and the warmongers (Israeli right wingers). Notice how he hasn’t gotten all the hostages back? That’s on purpose. The longer the war goes on, the better for him. Now, who do you rather want in the White House next year? A feeble old man who will go along with everything Bibi says? Or an experienced prosecutor who can put her foot down?
I’m sorry for your friends. They need to leave, now. If war came to my doorstep, that’s what I would do.
US government is supporting israel fascist government, they could have prevent the genocide by simply not arming israel to death and gifting them billions. They can still persuade israel government to stop by simply stopp aiding them but they are doing the opposite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war
Please. When the serbs did genocide the NATO bombed Belgrade. Kadhaffi was gone in a week. You’re telling me the US doesn’t have leverage against Israel? Come on now. Quit giving them weapons otherwise you guys are complicit, as simple as that.
I’d love to. Alas, all political power vested in me is in the form of a ballot. And I’ve already voted not to make the situation worse.
I’ve done so, Peter Welch is solidly against genocide and Bernie Sanders is trying congressional wizardry to try and cut off arms shipments.
Yeah you guys have been trying for a year now. Maybe stop trying and do something.
Dude, I understand that America is fucking awful right now but don’t bullshit about shit you don’t understand… Some people are just paying lip service or stalling but Bernie is really fucking trying.
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-and-colleagues-move-to-block-arms-sales-to-israel/
It’s not my responsibility to fix your goddamn country. Stop supporting genocide.
Are you implying the USA has a functional democracy whose actions follow the will of the people?
Fair point
Not your responsibility? Oh, okay. Then feel free to refrain from contributing to the conversation.
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You okay?
People here are not in charge of the Israeli government you know.
Or you meant the Russo Ukrainian war? Well then I sure hope Kamala wins too.
What about the Uyghurs? Shal we vote thirdparty so donald can give a full go to China there too?
What about my friend in lebannon who’s parent getting bombed with white phosphorus, idiot? Fuck you u twatyank. I hope the israeli war gets so bad you guys get drafter and you see your children sent there never to come back. That’d maybe teach you not to support the war machine.
The US gave them the 2 tons bomb that just exploded on an hospital. I don’t give a shit about trump. You are american. Trump is your fault and your responsability. You fix trump. You fight against trump instead of being a little coward thinking he will stop fascism by casting his little ballot. And then you put the warcrimers in jail and drop the key.
Yanks are monsters omg “a little less genocide”. Do you guys fucking hear yourself?
Lol. What a lot of effort it must be to project your preconceptions on some rando on the internet. How do you know I don’t give a shit? That seeing these things doesn’t hurt me to my core? What do you want me to do, go out and start murdering politicians? Sit down and think for a few minutes before writing your next comment.
All right I’m sorry.
If you want your heavily censored american-only echo-chamber there’s a website called reddit you could go to.
You sound upset, is everything okay?
Yes actually I got my daddy’s guitar so I’m learnin how to play tunbalalaika like a true antisemite.
If you only see the choices where you don’t sacrifice anything (between something prepared and served for you), you don’t have a choice.
“Slightly less painful genocide” will not even be slightly less painful. But people there sacrifice lives, while you won’t even sacrifice effort (and future efforts in court) to do something of a long list of actions which constitute political terrorism. You are not willing to even break law to defend people who are not being just abused, but murdered en masse in horrible ways.
Then you pretend with that cowardly logic that these are all choices you have, so you don’t even want to take responsibility for choosing the easy and safe path of doing nothing.
Hey, I regularly do that… it usually happens after I’ve had too much taco bell but I leave those bathrooms looking like a war zone.
When people are getting firebombed by thousands in your name, you’d do well to at least dream day and night of firebombing anything near you.
Big words for a small man on the internet. Do you have receipts from your actions? I’d love to see them.
You don’t know me. You don’t know what I have or have not done. Voting and direct action are not mutually exclusive.
Pot calling the kettle black a bit ain’t ya.
I hope you do walk the walk to go along with your big talk, but take responsibility for your words too. Statements like yours gives people a reason to feel “good enough” about “slightly less genocide”. And if we all keep repeating the mantra “slightly less genocide”, we can feel “good enough” all the way to complete genocide.
Then we can all wear a big frown so everyone knows how upset we are about it.
Not your business.
All I’ve said follows from your own comment.
Lol what a rebuttal!
Literally “no u”
Are you joking? The situation is dire when people are patting themselves on the back for a “slightly less painful genocide” whatever the hell that means in practice.
It’s called accepting reality for what it is and doing your best with the plausible options available.
I.E. being an adult
The Adults In The Room are here to make Tough Decisions just like in muh TV slop and wouldn’t you know it, those Tough Decisions involve slaughtering the poor and vulnerable for the benefit of the rich. Anyone who thinks wanton slaughter of the poor is bad, actually, is just a Whiny Child who Doesn’t Understand muh Complexity and Nuance needs to Grow Up and Accept Reality, and anyway that’s why we need to Kill All The
JewsPalestinians.Grow a fucking spine. Or a conscience. Or both. Grow up and stop looking for a grown up to tell you how the world has to work.
I know some adults. They have a heart.
You do not.
Being an adult means shutting up and taking it. Got it.
No, it means recognizing a shitty situation and working to make it less shitty - the “I won’t vote for Harris because genocide” crowd are refusing to make a situation less shitty because they want the situation to not be shitty at all. Big problems don’t have easy solutions - in this case we can all see what a good action would be (stopping any offensive arms sales to Isreal) but the political situation is such that that’s not going to happen - we tried to make that happen and I’m deeply grateful to everyone who protested the DNC.
But, at the end of the day, Trump will accelerate the genocide. He’s the worst outcome.
It means genocide but the bombs have pride flags instead of American flags, so completely different and if you disagree you’re a Russian bot :3