This is erasure of the like, 1 maybe 2, trans men that are anti-abortion
I wish it was that few, but sadly trans people can have some really atrocious politics too. I doubt they’re a significant factor on this particular scenario, though.
Turns out that assholes are roughly evenly distributed through the population, unfortunately.
Co-worker once told me managers are like assholes, everybody has at least one.
trans men that are anti-abortion
Well, allow me to be inclusive and say that both cis- and trans men who oppose aborion deserve a very equal kick to the face.
Yeah I kind of thought the statement was somehow obliquely anti-trans, but I didn’t want to open that can of arsenic.
Plenty of men support abortion - it removes financial responsibility from them, after all. Protests at abortion clinics are often held by women as much as men.
The more important demographic here is that most opposed to abortion are strongly religious.
Look outside the US and you’ll see that countries that do support choice are less influenced by the Church. It’s not coincidence.
And many of the men who oppose abortions, are massive fucking hypocrits who will gladly have their mistress get an abortion somewhere else.
Almost as if claiming a simple statistic tells the whole story doesn’t tell the whole story.
No they don’t. They only tell half the story.
The fact that the remaining 21% regularly go to abortion clinics anyway and tell the doctors that they will go to hell for giving them an abortion even as they demand one tells the other half.
I would encourage you to read the post more carefully. It doesn’t say anything about how many men oppose abortion. It’s making a claim about how many abortion opponents are men. Therefore, the 21% left over in that statement are in fact women who, most likely due to religious brainwashing, oppose abortion.
Correct.
And you’ll note that the article I linked to was about women who oppose abortion, who, in fact, seem fine with getting one themselves.
I’m somewhat confused as to what you thought I was talking about.
Oof. Looks like I’m the one who looks silly now.
Wow… I’m in the 21% who don’t oppose abortion and I also don’t go to clinics to harass the doctors, so apparently the story has at least 3 halves.
if you don’t oppose abortion then you’re not in that 21%
Doesn’t really matter because the supermajority of Americans think abortion should be legal anyway. It’s a small minority of the population that we have allowed to dictate domestic policy for their religious agenda.
It’s not even religious. Their religion says all kinds of really important shit that they completely ignore. They just pick this one specific issue because they hate women and it’s a lot easier to say “Uhhhh it’s because of my religion, you’re discriminating against me!” than it is to say “I hate women and want them to suffer”.
Oh come now. They don’t hate women, they just want to punish women for having sex outside of marriage because it’s against…their… religion…
…hm.
Also not in the religion, they’re specifically instructed that they’re not to make judgements or enact any punishments on the behalf of god, which this is.
I think even that is reaching. Most of them don’t want to punish women for extramarital sex, they just think God’s will is that those women deserve what they get. Of course they still defy God’s will by wearing glasses if God gave them bad eyes, but that’s just more shoddy reasoning.
Their motivations are still religious. Scripture and belief/practice often do not coincide or outright contradict each other.
It’s religious leaders saying this stuff. It isn’t in scripture. Not Christian scripture, at any rate.
I think that’s confusing simple ignorance and crappy reasoning with hate, which is a very misapplied word today. Another example is people who don’t recycle - they don’t hate the environment, they’re just fucking lazy.
And of the women, probably 1/3rd of them are post-menopausal and won’t have any more kids either
Reminds me of how some at the GOP was making a joke that it makes no sense for women over 50 to even care about abortion rights cause it doesn’t apply to them anymore.
Yet he saw no problem with him, as a man who can never carry a child, having an opinion on abortions.
If men could get pregnant, there would be drive-through abortion clinics every 5 miles
Men can get pregnant.
In any significant quantity, i guess.
They need female parts for that buddy.
With all due buddy: “If cisgender men could get pregnant…, …with a drive thru haha every five freedom units I’m dunny with the funny” would slap, contrasted to choosing to erase trans men, which catches hands.
With all due buddy
i’m stealing this
Men can have female parts. About 1% of men are born with a vagina and uterus. Drag personally knows several men like this.
It was root to leave out the slugs
But statistically 50% of the aborted fetuses will be male! Checkmate!
The 79% statistic does not seem true, at least if we’re assuming the American context. The sentiments around legal abortion are more similar than that between men and women, with 38% of men opposed and 33% of women opposed to legal abortion in most cases.
And those 79% should never get an abortion if they do become pregnant and leave everyone else the fuck alone.
Our, maybe try a slightly less sexist approach and look at the religion these people follow. In my experience, abortion has never been a man/woman issue, it’s a religious one
Idk how to respectfully say this, but you are being so vengeful toward religion that you forgot the intersectionality of gender and sex to that equation. This is not to invalidate your feelings, but that I find your statement invalidating a large part of this topic for no reason.
As one of the 21% who support abortion I think this statement is a little cavalier. The numbers tell more than one story.
It’s not saying that 79% of men are abortion opponents.
It’s saying that 79% of abortion opponents are men.
Those two statements are very different.
Oh yeah I read it wrong. Nevertheless, the point is that this one statistic doesn’t tell a whole story.
Here’s a pew research thing finding about 61% of men supporting abortion in the US in 2024; lagging behind women at 64% but not by much
Nice. Research shows 5 out of 4 polls are misleading.
Well, one is a poll, one is a meme with no data source or explanation of what’s been done to get to the possibly not very correct number
And pew research is one the the least biased sources someone could reference
Yeah but from my experience at least 33% of them have helped pay for an abortion.
Seems like a classic case of if I can’t have one you can’t either.
i think that we should start referring to it as child sacrifice++
Weird how many pro-lifers also support the death penalty.
So if we make refusal to vacate a uterus a capital offense, we have a path to compromise
