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    5 days ago

    On Spain we have two last names, one for the father other for the mother.

    And while before the father’s was always the first, since many years couples of newborn babies can choose the order of the surnames.

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        First last name. Example:

        Mother: Maria García Perez

        Father: Juan Rodríguez Domínguez

        Their kids can be named:

        Adela García Rodríguez

        or

        Adela Rodríguez García

        Ans once selected the order with the first kid all the kids from the same couple must follow the same order.

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          So it’s the mother’s father’s name, or the names of both grandfathers. Still patrilineal

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            I mean, if you go that way, when surnames where created in the middle ages it was the name of the man.

            All spanish surnames ending in -ez mean “son of”. And it’s always male names.

            But change has to start at some point.

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              Some cultures trace heritage both patrilineal and matrilineal, so taking the first last name of your father as your first and the second last name of your mother as your second would be that.

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                  I read it in Everyday Utopia. A totally worthwhile book that includes discussions about alternatives to the nuclear family we are so accustomed to. I didn’t find this exact example but in general, hunter gatherers have a much broader sense of heritage and family than we have. That’s why it’s so stupid when people claim they only care about their own family. Well, if you meet someone whose mother’s father had the same totem animal as one of your caregiving adults who joined your group late in life, you might not share a language with this someone, but you are family. And once you live long enough in a group, you become family anyway.