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    This is one of my pet peeves - so you have a HUGE universe to work with, thousands and thousands of interresting planets, anything you can imagine. But no, because of callback$ and reference$ we’re getting to the same planets over and over again, even to Tatooine which should be by its purpose in the story forgetable, boring, a planet everyone overlooks

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      I mean, Tatooine comes up more than other planets in the movies, but it’s not actually all that strange.

      Tatooine is where Luke grew up, in the farm of his uncle and aunt. Which immediately ties his father to that place in some fashion. Or you would have to explain why Owen and Beru chose to move there, which seems much more difficult.

      Han Solo is there trying to work things out with Jabba, which doesn’t go well at all, but does explain why we go back to Tatooine for a third time in RotJ: that’s just where Jabba lives.

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          He’s literally the Hutt lord of Tatooine (and nothing else). Where would you expect him to live?

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            He’s literally the Hutt lord of Tatooine (and nothing else). Where would you expect him to live?

            The Hutts have other planets, and their power base is many systems, and not just one single system.

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              The entire character of Jabba exists only because he is the crime lord that lives on Tatooine. If Jabba had lived somewhere else, his role in the movies would simply have been filled by some other crime lord that lives on Tatooine. Maybe another Hutt. Maybe Black Sun or the Syndicate.

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                The entire character of Jabba exists only because he is the crime lord that lives on Tatooine. If Jabba had lived somewhere else, his role in the movies would simply have been filled by some other crime lord that lives on Tatooine. Maybe another Hutt. Maybe Black Sun or the Syndicate.

                Fair enough, but not necessarily. I doubt there’s one single Hutt for each individual planet/system, they have families (per the Clone Wars, etc.) and they are modeled after the Mafia and their families, which cover whole regions of an area, and not a single point of an area.

                But, no need to digress into a nerd fight over it. :)

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      As much as Lucas is rightfully getting criticised for hammy dialogues and slacking narrative in the prequels, what I love about the prequels is that it’s got a vision and it is wholly original because it is made by an auteur. Lucas created new, interesting and unique set pieces that are integral to the plot. Whereas the sequel trilogy, while they have some original set pieces, most of them feel dead, forgettable and basically remake of previous settings from old movies like Jakku (a carbon copy of Tatooine), the Moon Death Star (which is well-- a carbon copy of the Death Star), and Ahch-To, where Luke hid, is a lush version of Dagobah.

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        I feel this way about the Clone Wars animated series. Lots of people dismiss it as being just for kids, or hate it 'cause ‘Snips’, but it did more to bring me into the lore than the original trilogy.

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          The Clone Wars might have started out for a younger audience (I would say more all ages, it wasn’t too kiddy) but it started to have episodes that were pretty heavy after a while. Also, the transformation from “snips” to who Ahsoka is now is one of the best examples of character growth I can think of. Back when it came out if you had told me that annoying little shit would become one of my favorite characters in the entire eu, I never would have believed it.

          And on a general note, the eu has always had better stories than the movies anyway.

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        it’s got a vision and it is wholly original because it is made by an auteur.

        auteur /ō-tûr′, ō-tœr′/

        noun

        • A filmmaker, usually a director, who exercises creative control over his or her works and has a strong personal style.

        • A creative artist, especially a film director, seen as having a specific, recognisable artistic vision, and who is seen as the single or preeminent ‘author’ of his works.

        • A filmmaker who has a personal style and keeps creative control over his or her works.


        The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition