Being a massive shithead also explains a lot of it. Including the drug use.
I have a lot of ketamine users in my town and many highly functioning ones and it’s very clear that the drug has long tail disassociative effects. They are so disconnected and zombie like despite seemingly functional.
I say this as a psychonaut myself - long term K use is pretty scary but people are afraid to shit on K because if not abused it’s seems to have a lot of powerful positive effects on many.
Life is literally an exercise in balance and homeostasis. Too much of anything is almost always bad in the long term.
when you get the message, hang up the phone
Yeah I mean, water and oxygen can both kill you in high enough amounts.
My mother had to take it for a nerve condition and it fucked her up. Ruined parts of her nervous system and she required physical therapy to be able to grasp objects again.
She has now been in several car accidents since cause she goes into hazes and acts differently. I’m not sure it has good side effects other than being an incredibly strong tranquilizer and disassociative.
Lots of drugs are considered highly by their users but this one seems to have some pretty rough sides to make it sound at all positive to me.
Who cares what the cause of the behavior is? It is unacceptable.
That should be enough. No need to even try to explain of empathize with it.
But it is telling that the richest man in the history of mankind acts like this. People should see that wealth does not equate to strength, intelligence, good politics, etc. But instead people see wealth as a way to get away with anything they want, even if it is completely embarrassing stuff that no one with self respect would even think about.
Very true. Fuck the rich
I believe it would be worth to research it. Similar to research into serial killers and other “unwanted” neurotypes we should try to learn how we can prevent people becoming like this and prevent becoming their victims
It’s not drugs, he’s just a douche
Could be both
Drug fuelled douche
Totally
I’m currently taking 80mg ketamine troches and can verify that I am not a sociopathic Nazi.
Or him having been an entitled narcissist surrounded by sycophants for his entire life.
Who is giving him this shit?
Catch me on the street with whatever pharmacy of dugs Musk is taking and I’d probably be sitting in front of a judge pretty quickly. Just another example of the rich doing whatever the F they want with no consequences.
Thinking about it, whoever Elon’s dealer is probably has a pretty sweet gig as far as drug dealing goes. They’ve got someone on the hook who is the magical combination of being an addict, has infinite wealth, doesn’t know the value of anything, and is a huge asshole so they probably don’t even feel bad about exploiting them lol.
I’m sure Elon pays a huge premium for an exclusive, on-call drug dealer.
Have you met his mother? That also explains a lot.
You mean his sister?
I’m not huge into drugs, can someone explain to me why a billionaire takes ketamine? Isn’t it a prescription painkiller?
Shouldn’t he be smoking brainstem of an endangered rainforest frog, or some nameless lab chemical synthesized personally for him?
It’s a dissociative drug that has long been used as a field anesthetic because there’s a very wide range of doses that are both effective and non-lethal. It’s shown promise in recent years as a treatment for depression and certain other conditions that are resistant to traditional treatments. Ketamine is also sort of fun to do recreationally for the affirmation dissociative effects. Elon Musk is basically a drug addict at this point. He’s abusing it way too often and is healthy or safe to do
I don’t know about ketamine but I have been around people on Amphetamines. He acts like they did. So a guy trying to run 3 companies at the same time would presumably use amphetamines to have the time. You can go for days without sleeping.
I know it’s hard to phantom, but they have human bodies
That react to stimulants just like we
But they aren’t like us
*fathom
Oh man is that really how it’s spelled? Thx
Two different words 🙂
Phantom - a ghost
Fathom - to understand
Fathom is more specifically a unit of measurement for depth of water. If you fathom something, you’ve gauged the depths of the topic.
Oh cool. TIL
Ummm… Billionaires are people? Imma need a source on that.
No, no, no! Notice how I specified that they have human bodies, for this exact reason
Oh yes, thank you for the clarification
Is this a poem?
It’s a haiku, short for high iq
I suppose it’s just like most drug addicts, you don’t really choose what you get addicted to or when, something just sort of gets its hooks into you at some point and that’s it.
Plus if you factor in having essentially no boundaries on your life (ie infinite money and nobody to tell you no or stop you doing anything, being more-or-less above the law, access to high-quality drugs and world-class healthcare) you can probably go on doing stuff like that pretty much indefinitely. IIRC that’s how Keith Richards said he was able to go on doing drugs for so long - he was loaded so he could always get the good stuff that wasn’t mixed with anything.
I dunno man, I’ve done ketamine and it didn’t turn me into a nazi.
Maybe he’s just a bad person.
Narcissism is the main problem with him, K made it worse.
Yep it just makes him unpredictable and more dangerous.
There’s a difference between recreational K use and stuffing it down every opportunity you get. If you’ve done K you know how it looks and Musk looks like that 100% of the time.
Hey look, the media blaming drugs for stupid people doing stupid shit.
This isn’t the ketamine. He would probably be even worse without it.
Yeah, no shit. Now how do we make it stop?
Gun?
Yes Rico
Ketamine is the least of this dude’s problems.
I mean… we all have that friend who does mushrooms or drops acid and thinks they are the savior of the human race.
The only difference is that the next day they have to go work their shift at IHOP rather than waking up and being the richest person in the world.
Those are true, non-addictive, psychedelics and the world would be a better place if more people were given them with a proper guide. Ketamine is significantly different and addictive.
So… You’re saying we shouldn’t be giving the richest man in the world an animal tranquilizer along with unlimited power over our government?
That does seem less than optimal, doesn’t it?
Now, forcing him to take auyahausca with a real hard ass of a shaman to confront him might have utility. Then, maybe he should have to live a life of service. Cleaning and caring for the elderly and infirm in a third world slum, some of his billions could be used to pay to have this be supervised.
That might be good.
He has, ultimately, too much money for him to accidently experience a brush with sanity…
I know, but let me have my happy thoughts.
I’ve had my own experiences with psychedelics. I believe they have huge potential for psychotherapy but at the same time I absolute have to acknowledge the risks of psychosis. Handle with care!
No doubt! They are powerful medicine and should be used with guidance, especially at first.
I really like the trip guide method. An experienced person can shepard a person or small group through a trip. There is counseling before hand, maybe goals or problems to be considered during, counseling/discussion in the weeks afterwards. Screen for familial psychosis/schizoid disorders.
Medicine that should be respected, not really something to party with.
I agree. Personally while being very careful I always did it alone. Partially because there are only a few people I truly trust, there is a stigma on all types of drugs and of course because it’s illegal so there are no “licensed” professionals that could monitor me.
I had some very good and eye / mind opening experiences but also some very scary ones that took months to digest mentally.
Imagine coming out of a K hole and finding that you’ve caused the most powerful nation in the world to collapse.
