• mctoasterson@reddthat.com
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    3 days ago

    Do I get any kind of points for thinking Tesla sucked before all the political windshift relating to Musk?

    I’ve said from jumpstreet that, at best, Tesla is like the Apple of the car world:

    • Model releases considered “cool” for the first year or so, because it’s a way to flex on the plebs.

    • Pretty soon everybody and their mom has one and the design isn’t very remarkable in and of itself. Therefore the iPhone becomes the basic bitch phone, and the Tesla becomes the basic bitch vehicle.

    • Overpriced relative to similar performing products.

    • Horribly invasive sensors, bad data privacy, and generalized ecosystem.

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      I test drove a couple of Teslas way back in the day. You know what the big selling point was? The “Easter egg” that shows the surface of Mars on the GPS. Oh, and the James Bond Lotus one. It was at that point that I realized this was not a serious company, and it was run by a dork ass 4Chan edgelord.

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      Oh it’s why I bought a Chevy Bolt EUV. A way better car for less money. Teslas suck in the electric car world. They opened everyone’s eyes to the possibilities. But that’s it. It’s no longer the only option.

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      I would say its worse than Apple in those regards. At least Apple’s hardware, though way overpriced, is decently made. I don’t think anyone in the world ever said that about Tesla.

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        You’re holding it wrong or it’s normal it gets so hot just don’t use it too much. Lol decently made.

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          I was mostly talking about build quality. It doesn’t just fall apart when you touch/use it like intended. About overheating, I wouldn’t have a clue. I would never buy or use an Apple device if i can help it

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      I thought the cars were mediocre at best and overpriced. The more I learned the less i liked them.

      • Primary door function being completely electronic with a warning that using the manual release could damage the car.
      • Proprietary navigation, so traffic data only comes from other Tesla’s.
      • Lack of lidar, which has been the standard for accident avoidance tech since forever.
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        Primary door function being completely electronic with a warning that using the manual release could damage the car

        That’s one of the things that was completely baffling to me. It’s really changing a model that was established, functional, tried and tested, just for the sake of appearing cool and with no regard at all for the drawbacks (which kind of sums up Tesla engineering, I suppose).

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          Like for toy cars that’s fine. But we need people’s evs. I want a dependable, easy to use and maintain hatchback at a good price and ideally union made. Stuff like heated seats would be nice, but ultimately I don’t care to have a fancy tech mobile. That said android auto is something I want.

          Those weird doors are stupid. Everything like that just adds cost and maintenance at low value to the everyday user

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      I hate Apple and always thought Musk was a tool. But, apple products are better than Tesla products. Apple is still overpriced as shit, and has bullshit gatekeeping, but they make solid products, you have to give them that.

      Tesla on the other hand always had absolute shit build quality.

      People kept circle jercking about how great the software was, but it always thought it was idiotic.

      Not having physical buttons / handles is beyond insane to me and I could never buy a car that made me jump through hoops to fucking raise the temp in the car.

      Then there’s autopilot, people were raving about that, but again, are you going to trust your life to a company that can’t even get two body panels to match properly?

      I’m for advancement and every tech has its growing pains, but musk was always a piece of shit, and Tesla’s mission never seemed to be “make the best car for the consumer”, it was always “what fun shit does the man child want us to play on today?”

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      I remember Tesla having decent looks compared to the other fugly electric cars at the time. The hybrids weren’t terrible like the Prius but they all had that “look”

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        I’m pretty sure most of those companies made their electric/hybrid options intentionally ugly. That way they could point at the statistics and say “See governments, nobody wants electric!”

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      Yes, here is some Lemmy Points that will only apply to this comment and nowhere else :)

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      I’ll give you points if I get some too. Have been hating on Tesla since I graduated college and started working in silicon valley. Learned very quickly that every single engineer hates Musk and that Tesla was an awful company to work for.

      I interviewed with them once and all my friends in the field were telling me not to. They basically stack their entire company with H1 visa slaves, pay them half of what non H1 employees would get, and work them to death because their visa is tied to their employer.

      This is common practice in silicon valley but Tesla really took it to another level. So I’ve been hating them since I graduated in 2015.

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      “It’s half the price, but has better specs 🤨”

      Basically anyone going from USA (made in china) product to Chinese (made in china) product