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    The money THEOR PARENTS PAID INTO AND WORKED TOWARDS. They are literally entitled to it. It is their parent money!!!

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    Warning everyone that I could not find a source for this and this Twitter post isn’t any evidence in itself. So if you’re saying I told you so, then you’re just as susceptible as the people who believe $300m was being sent to 11yos without any explanation.

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      I found two sources for this info.

      https://en.as.com/latest_news/bad-news-for-social-security-beneficiaries-this-new-proposal-would-stop-payments-to-170000-people-n/ says:

      Who could see their Social Security benefits stopped?

      Government Executive reports that the SSA memo proposes ceasing payments that are made to people without Social Security numbers. While people without an SSN are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits of their own, there are scenarios where they can accept benefits on behalf of an eligible person who does have an SSN as that person’s “representative payee.”

      A link in that text goes to https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/ssa-weighs-axing-payments-170000-beneficiaries/403740/ and it gives an example:

      That task could be arduous, as finding payees is already so difficult that at times the agency turns to institutional payees like child welfare agencies, said Romig. SSA staff also have to assess the suitability of payees.

      “Say you’re a kid and you don’t have a payee for a while — they stop paying the benefit until they sort it out,” she said of the potential for interruptions to benefits.

      It may be that the OP read that and extrapolated it to mean orphans would be cut off … which may or may not be true.

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        Those are for SSA, not SBA. They don’t explain why SBA would be brokering business loans with 11yos. There is likely a valid explanation here, but the media doesn’t need to get up in arms until more details are available.

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          DOGE looks to be what’s getting all up in arms here. If there’s suspicion of corruption, investigate, Don’t just cut it all off! This isn’t a car factory, it’s food and shelter, aka the economy!

          Of course I think he knows this and is actually trying to bring about a recession so he can seize whatever power he can

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            I agree, but the Twitter post isn’t DOGE and is potentially incorrect. You don’t battle disinformation with more disinformation.

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          There’s nothing unlawful or untwart about an 11yr old getting a business loan if they have a business, that’s just a motivated kid. If not investigate and then shut it down if it’s fraud, don’t just read the title and cut it based off that.

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            You clearly don’t know the basics of how an SBA loan works so I’m not sure why you are even making statements as if you’re an expert.

            Also, I’m not giving an opinion on the legality of the situation. I’m stating the Twitter post is based on no provided evidence so everyone in this thread defending against another ridiculous statement with more ridiculous statements shows that both sides are equally willfully ignorant and susceptible to propaganda.

            I’m on the side that thinks it’s likely a record keeping error because the names do not match the SSNs. Also, banks are the actual lenders behind SBAs and it’s highly unlikely that in one specific year, banks decided to loan out over $300m to over thousands of businesses with credit checks that did not match the name returned on an SSN with the name of the person being lent too.

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              That’s not a counterargument that’s a bad attempt to strawman. Similarly there are zero age restrictions on an SBA loan, none zero.

              There’s no need to defend against either, they’re both legal.

              Probably, that doesn’t change the fact that it wouldn’t be illegal even if the ages are correct.

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      You think children are getting undeserved money from the government.

      I think children are getting money from the government.

      We are not the same. </meme>

      Regardless of evidence provenance, children need to be our most sacred class of people, followed by the elderly and disabled. It shouldn’t even be a question about how and why we take care of them, we just fucking should.

      Misinformation is real, so I see part of your point, but the people outraged at this are WILDLY different from the people outraged that kids might be getting money they don’t “deserve”. Can we not just be nice to each other? This isn’t actually a zero-sum game.

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        No, I actually think SBA lenders are not sending any money to 11yos. I think this is most likely a record keeping error.

        I do also think the Twitter post is confusing SSA and SBA. The SSA sending social security I am 100% for. SBA lenders sending money to business I am also 100%, even if they are 11yos. I just think it is highly unlikely that in a single year, banks decided to loan an unprecedented $300m to 11yos and that those thousands of loans all had mismatching names with their SSNs.

        I’m just saying everyone shouldn’t go rallying behind this person who is making claims without any evidence. It’s just as dumb as DOGE.

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    The best part is how his efficiency improvements will cost the government half a trillion dollars 😆

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    They’ve also cut PEPFAR. PEPFAR is a program which, among other things, provides antiretrovirals to people with HIV/AIDS in poorer countries. Approximately twenty million people, including half a million children will now start to slowly die without access to these drugs.

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      For comparison’s sake, Hitler killed 13.6 million people. History is very likely to end up remembering Trump as the single deadliest regime in history.

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    Is there a source for this, I’m genuinely interested in reading more about this but can’t find a source.

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      It’s a screenshot of a tweet, I don’t know what further proof you could want. Did you not see the blue checkmark? /s

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    Elon after labeling orphans as fraudsters and taking away their survivor benefits that they are entitled to and deserve: “God, I just sniffle I don’t understand why people hate me crocodile tears

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    This only ends one way, with nooses and guillotines. It is up to the people how quickly it ends.

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      I pulled up next to a guy the other day and the passenger looked like Elon at first glance. My first thought was if I could shoot him in the face and escape long enough to at least make a few phone calls. That’s how much this guy deserves to be deleted. I’d risk my life to end it all.

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      Nah, this ends with America so bankrupt that states split up from the federation. Maybe, just maybe, the workers unions will be strong enough to claim one of these new countries, but most likely it ends with seperate kingdoms, each ruled by a different billionaire.

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          That is why i say everything else the Trump government is doing right now is just distraction.

          Unfortunately many of their distractions are already global catastrophes by themselves.

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    Musk saying the words “social security” might have been the best thing that could have happened tbh. A conservative family member of mine was at an Indivisible meeting today - I think the republicans might be in for a bit of a shit show, if you can believe it

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      Even when they get their SS canceled, they will praise him. They will say…“Well, he said there will be pain and hardship. But the good times are coming. The lord has a plan”.

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        They won’t though.

        There’s this constant kneejerk response here and everywhere that “oh we’ve seen it all before” and “they didn’t do anything then, they won’t do anything now”. It’s understandable. It’s relatable. It’s even inevitable. The apathy, the exhaustion, the despair.

        But the reason people still get upset is because there are still things to be upset about. New people find new reasons all the time. The reason most of this is so shocking to many is because it actually hasn’t happened before.

        None of this has. Not to them. Not here. Not in our lifetimes. So many things are changing that it’s hard to keep up, but many people have enjoyed a geographical, demographical, or economic distance between themselves and their society’s problems.

        Social security has always been the “third rail”. It’s killed careers for even approaching the idea of reform. It is - literally, by every single definition - the taxpayer’s dollar. If you want things to change, you need to take advantage of moments like this. Don’t spread apathy.

        Spread outrage. Spread the word. Americans are about to be economically kicked in the family jewels at every level. Trade, tariffs, taxes, business regulations, labor protections, health insurance, federal jobs, government contracts, social security…

        There will be people who will “accept the hardship”, but there are far more people who will be pissed at seeing politics hit their bank account. Their lives. Their families.

        Help them understand why it’s happening. Help them understand why it needs to stop.

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        You’re not wrong in general, I should clarify. This family is of the affluent, fence-sitting variety conservative. They couldn’t be assed to do anything because it hadn’t hit them yet. This did. This is someone who will genuinely be turned imo.

        Quick edit here, I just got done talking with them. They told me what finally pushed them over was talking to a friend of theirs whose kid has autism. Their kid hadn’t been able to sleep at night with all this shit going on. Apparently that really got to them. So - my takeaway here is, keep the dialogue open. If you have a story to tell, keep sharing it. You never know who it will reach.