There’s nothing Christians/Muslims/Jews hate more than slightly different variety of Christians/Muslims/Jews. The other 2 are far behind.
Guess leftists had to learn it from someone.
I was told by nuns in catholic school that we had more in common with Jews than with Lutherans.
The denomination wars are real
Wait until you hear about Christians’ conflicts with other Christians! Also a lot of Islamist terror is directed at Muslims who follow Mohammed’s teachings the wrong way.
Doesn’t Islam also have multiple different sub-cults within that hate eachothers?
Islam isn’t unique in that way. The history of Christianity is just various groups fighting over how to believe correctly.
Absolutely
Sunni and Shia are not a 70s pop duo.
Jews don’t really hate anyone for not believing in their God. Unlike Christianity and Islam, Jews don’t believe that everyone has to follow their religion. They don’t really believe in Heaven and Hell, and they don’t proselytize to people who aren’t already Jews. Judaism is for the Jewish people and that’s it.
Well, it is true that unlike other religions, Jews don’t try to necessarily recruit new people, They do try to recruit non-religious Jewish people into religion, which is still bad. And the Jewish religion still has a bunch of terrible, racist, misogynistic and overall just terrible beliefs that are inherent to the religion. And there are still a bunch of Jews who just hate all other religions, especially Orthodox Jews.
No, but a key tenet is the belief that Jews have a “higher purpose” in life than gentiles, and unfortunately this manifests as ethno-religious supremacy in the more conservative circles. A lot of the rhetoric surrounding Gaza is that Jews have a biblical right to the land over…the people that actually live there.
Interesting. That’s almost the opposite of Baha’is. Baha’is don’t proselytize because everyone is a Baha’i. They just haven’t discovered it for themselves yet, and they have to do that, it’s not the job of the Baha’is to do anything but live the best way they can. Their “Kingdom of God,” or afterlife is also distinctly different from the concept of Heaven and Hell as well.
christians learned their lesson after the crusades. muslims are currently on their way of learning it
This is a really poor understanding of the crusades as well as religious violence in general.
please educate me on religious violence
Well for starts the crusades were about more than just religion, and it’s pretty obvious that they weren’t the end of Christian religious violence and that nobody “learned their lesson” from them.
were about more than just religion
of course but they also were about religion
they weren’t the end of Christian religious violence
I’d say they were the epitome of christian violence (against non-christians) and from then on it decreased overall
nobody “learned their lesson” from them
after enough of the desasters that were the crusades they stopped doing them altogether
Number of deaths in the crusades- 1,000,000
Number of deaths in the colonization of the Americas- 59,000,000+
The Dome of the Rock seems to be claimed by all three. Abraham attempted to sacrifice his son there, before he was stopped. Muhammed’s ascent to heaven took place there (figuratively, not literally), and Jesus threw the moneymen out of the temple at that location.
I always wondered what is so special about that location.
Muhammed’s ascent to heaven took place there (figuratively, not literally)
Just looked it up, Muhammed died in Medina. I kind of assumed he died somewhere in the the vicinity of Jerusalem and that’s why his name is connected with the Dome of the Rock
The Dome of The Rock isn’t just a nickname for Dwayne Johnson’s head?
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Ask Jews and Muslims if they believe in the trinity. It’s not the same god.
They all claim to believe in the god of Abraham so they are stuck with each other while disagreeing on fundamental stuff.
The Trinity isn’t actually fundamental, it’s just a syncretic cope. The fundamentals are the same, everyone who doesn’t believe in your god is subhuman and deserves to be conquered for their “own good” but at least they aren’t women.
It is a fundamental. Christians worship Christ as God - which Muslims believe just to be merely a prophet and Jews believe to be a sorcerer and a blasphemer.
Just because only one group believes that Jesus was God doesn’t mean it isn’t the same God.
So starting from a schizophrenic as the lineal foundation resulted in a three headed god concept never contained in any canonical part of their book, the mulligan do-overs completely disconnected from their ancient ways, and the other brother magic tripping LSD globe trotter of the desert. Does that surprise anyone. What is surprising to me is that something so obviously nonsense is still so accepted.
in my personal edgy opinion, religions are a cope & a great tool of control.
They give you hope against the biggest fear ingrained in us - death, and even worse - death being equal for everyone, good person, bad person, both will die. It’s a nice thought to believe that there is fairness to it all, that good actions should be done despite bad actions being easier. It’s a nice thought to believe there is something else after you die, and none of your good (or bad) deeds go unnoticed, that you, a good person, will live in paradise, and your enemies will finally suffer the consequences of what they’ve done.
it also helps bring people together, creates a unified peoppe and a culture of those who believe in the same thing & allows a potential leader to have an easier time rallying everyone towards the same goal.
religion is a wonderful tool for both coping with existential dread, and unifying people. but as a tool it has the capacity for explaining away both good and bad things quite equally (helping poor, crusades, personal growth, bigotry).
what relgion is based on is close to irrelevant, it just has to be something, preferably a good overall story with many smaller stories that teach the common folk how to be a good [insert religious identity]. Try reading ancient Egyptian mythology, i suspect most of that shit was written on heavy doses of psychedelics, and despite how completely insane all of it is - it unified people and was an integral part of the biggest empire of the ancient times.
honestly i don’t want to “debunk” people’s religions, if it’s something that keeps them going then why take it away, i personally tried but failed multiple times at believing in any god, but i can’t lie the existential dread of “one day i will die, no matter how much i managed to achieve, no matter how good of a person i was, i will die the same as every murderer or war criminal, and there will be no justice in that, and then, one day my name will be spoken for the last time, and i will be forgotten” is a heavy thought to bear, no wonder that as a species we’ve always tried to find some reason, any reason, for that not being the case
They give you hope against the biggest fear ingrained in us - death, and even worse - death being equal for everyone, good person, bad person, both will die.
Or they teach us to fear death. Nothing to worry about death unless you will live afterwards forever and take your memories with you. Now you have to make good memories soon.
nah i’m pretty sure evolution taught us to fear death, no species looks like it feels neutral about dying
The receptors for psychedelics aren’t there for no reason, heavy prayer and meditation can trigger similar effects. Substances are just a shortcut, that’s why religion don’t tend to like them. Personally I think that as long as it isn’t used as a crutch it’s totally fine to buy a day pass.
I view it as slightly better than that interpretation. The Old Testament is what links the three. The interesting thing about the Old Testament is that it was written over a few thousand years starting around the time of two major historical events that could have precipitated what would look like a potential “apocalypse,” to anyone at the time.
The Green Sahara period had just come to an end, denying Egypt what I would imagine was a substantial breadbasket for the Egyptian, and possibly Assyrian Empires. That event may not have directly caused The Bronze age collapse, but they happened quickly enough together, that I would imagine it was a factor.
So in a period of a few hundred years, a savannah that had plentiful game and foraging turned into the largest desert in the world. The Levant went from a seemingly temperate mediterranian climate, aka “the promised land,” to a desert mediterranian climate. All the empires that you know of just collapsed in a period of 150 years. You might just get a bit superstitious, and borrow some ancient creation myths to write down the “history” of your people.
Lots of cultures did this. We know from archeological evidence that the Israelites weren’t ever in Egypt, so everything up to, and including Moses, was made up to try to teach their descendants how to live in this new horrible dying world. It’s just absolute random chance that the Israelite texts survived long enough to spawn the other two belief systems.
There is no archaeological evidence to say the Israelites weren’t in Egypt. In fact, quite the contrary
The green Sahara was gone 5 000 years ago when Egypt barely started being Egypt and long before Assyria, the Bronze Age Collapse happened 3 200 years ago, and the Old Testament started getting written a bit before 600 BCE over a few hundred years. The Egyptians and Assyrians already had their breadbasket, it was the fertile crescent from the Nile to the Tigris and Euphrates, it was not a desert there.
The israelite texts survived because they were written right when some big empires (Babylon and the Achaemenids) came around and then carried them over until the Greeks and Romans came by.
I’m always weirded out by this because… I mean, from my perspective it’s a made up deity anyway, so the idea that they’re all worshiping the same one seems a bit needless to me, like nerds trying to reconcile stories from different authors into the same canon.
It’s not like they concede that any other deities or metaphisical constructs are more real just because they aren’t nominally based on the same entity. These are all exclusive, monotheist religions.
It’s because they all have the same origin. They can’t say they’re different gods, because it’s still their same story they just add or don’t add extra parts on top.
Islam was started by a pagan guy who liked Christian and Jewish theology. So he grafted some stuff in. (Some pagan stuff was also added in like the Kaaba and black stone).
Christianity and Judaism have such different concepts of God that Who they worship isn’t really comparable.
Think of it as fanfic from the same origin that has been lost in time.
Humans are tribal. They need a us and them. Then and now. Look around. It is everywhere.
It demonstrates that they worship the Dogma more than the deity
Simple trick: “If you don’t do exactly as our religion says, you’re blaspheming god”.
30 year war entering the chat.
I fail to understand why, in religion as in politics by the way, differences and disagreements should be a problem. Diversity is a strength!
Because there is a bunch of old books that say so.
You obviously didn’t read the Bible, you can’t find two pages that agree with each other, and that didn’t bother the redactors of the Bible.
That’s how I view different religions. Each one has one part of a big picture and a bunch of extra fluff. The trouble is that people tend to think that the extra fluff is just as important as the core message, and religions as a organizations encourage it.
I like to compare religions to languages. They are tools to speak about the unspeakable, but they don’t necessary oppose each other when they have different doctrines, like French doesn’t oppose English when it calls “maison” what English calls “house”.
By definition, God is a reality that exists outside time and space, there’s no way our mind can define it. But like you need a language to speak, you need to practice a religion to develop your spirituality, even if you know that your religion is not the only way to develop it. You can also speak more than one language, and you can practice more than one religion, but it’s harder.
That’s a great way to see it, thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome :-)
Idiots want to dominante I guess. Smart people want to learn. They are not smart.
Except they don’t have the same god… Christians believe in a triune God which Jesus is the incarnation of, something muslims and modern day Jews completely reject, as they are unitarians.
“The one true god” is not the same god as “The one true god”, or even “The one true god”
Lmao
They are all monotheists. Doesn’t mean they believe in the same “one true god”, just that they have their own separate "one true god"s
Yes we all know that religious people are stupid pedants
slanders religious people
Calls them “stupid pedants” when they attempt to make a defence
Well the god is still the same entity. Looking how the christians and muslim use the old testament nad Jesus bring a prophet/messiah.
Christians believe Jesus is God. So it’s not the same entity.
In the same way that a splice off of a plant isn’t the same plant… The plant it was spliced off of is the same plant, though.
If you plant it again, it isn’t the same plant. Just because Christians, Jews and Muslims claim to have the same creation literature (The Muslims even have a completely different narrative about Abraham) doesn’t mean it’s the same god.
I’d say christians and jews have fairly good relations. christians also don’t really mind muslims. jews hate muslims because of the gaza conflict and vice versa. the most extremist muslims are the only ones doing terrorism as well
Jews don’t hate Muslims. What’s happening in Gaza has nothing to do with religion, and all to do with right wing politics and ego.
Edit: I’m not responding to any more DMs telling me I’m wrong and trying to explain to me (as a Jew) what Jews really think. Next DM gets screenshot and added to the edit.
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Can you show us on the dolly where cm0002 hurt you?
@Agrivar
you deleted the post another racist hit and run
