Anyone who hates the concept of taxes should be barred from voting. Clearly, you’re too stupid to be allowed to participate.
I don’t hate the concept of taxes. I hate the concept of my taxes not actually going back into the community I live in and instead being used to line pockets and blow up middle eastern people.
That’s fair, as long as you realize that some of it DOES actually go back to your community.
Then let’s only pay the portion that does go to the community or necessary public services
I’ll take that deal, but only if I’m also relieved from paying taxes.
You can be relieved of taxes as long as you’re barred from using anything paid for with taxes. No FDA regulations for you!
[starts manufacturing affordable insulin]
[starts to stretch insulin with paint thinner]
every day it seems like people forget what things like the FDA are for, but hey, the snake oil salesmen love this state of affairs
If I need testing for someone else’s insulin, I can get that for cheaper than the regulatory capture insulin. They don’t work for us.
ah yes, use the totally legit bio-med test service down the road, due to the FTC not being a thing they can totally and without any repercussions just lie to you because they have a deal with the person selling you the insulin.
Then again, you have been hoodwinked into some “regulatory capture” bullshit, in reality, insulin is so expensive in the USA because no one has the capital wants to sell it cheap, it’s a risk for minimal rewards, the demand is literally your life, so the cost can be as high as anyone wants it.
as for the whole “but the free market” and “supply/demand”, do you think the people setting these prices don’t know what the prisoner’s dilemma is?
There is just so much going on here.
Are we discussing a situation in which only the FDA is gone, or complete anarchy?
Do you believe that regulatory capture is bullshit?
People knowing about a prisoner’s dilemma doesn’t make it go away.
Works for me! As long as Amazon will still deliver to my address, you can find me homesteading at my Uncle Ted cabin sending virtual mailbombs to fiat currency enthusiasts. Don’t come visit without an appointment though or you’ll be leaving in a box.
They won’t, those roads are maintained by taxes and the internet infrastructure is subsidized.
The FBI has more guns than you lol
I didn’t do anything wrong though. No vote, no taxes, no use of publicly funded infrastructure, that was the deal. Amazon is a private company, they do pay taxes, so they can use the roads on my behalf.
Are you an anarchist?
Well, I’m certainly not a fan of big government if that’s what you mean.
That’s the fun thing though, taxes pay for the legal system that protects you from both the state and other people. So you don’t get that either. Anyone including the FBI can roll up and smoke your ass and there’s nothing you can do about it.
And I dunno what a virtual mailbomb is, but it sounds like something the FBI would care enough to stop.
And I dunno what a virtual mailbomb is, but it sounds like something the FBI would care enough to stop.
It’s just a funny word I made up for inconvenient free speech. Because it is my experience that right (or wrong, depending on your perspective) words at the right time can literally make a person blow up LOL
Many more tax dollars are poured into the military industrial complex than actual regulation.
What he could’ve made if there were no taxes? I doubt he’d be making as much if there were no government.
Should be more mad of what isn’t being done with all the taxes being taken out.
He’d be really upset if he knew what is being done with his taxes.
Argentina gutted its tax system and now certain people are making a lot more money. Its just that the state currency is increasingly worthless, as the biggest consumer of notes no longer wants them.
We need to find an argument, which is convincing to billionaires, that the world will be better for them if they and all other billionaires pay their full share of taxes.
Government can be a win for the individual, if all the other individuals are also making the same sacrifice.
So like if Joe gets taxed some of his money and he’s the only one, then Joe loses because Joe’s money can’t serve him any better being spent by someone else.
But if Joe gets taxed some of his money and so does everyone else who Joe lives with, then Joe can win by this because the effect of the commonwealth generated can benefit him more than the money would have in his own account.
Like, I’m happy to pay taxes in order to live in a society of laws and security and free open markets where I can trade with people to get things I can’t provide myself.
By giving up that 10% of my money, I’m gaining all this other wealth in the form of a stable society.
So we need to articulate how the global benefits of those billionaires’ tax money being pooled and spent on commonwealth, is better even for the billionaires than if they’d each individually kept that money.
Am I being clear here? I feel like I’m not.
Like if we went after Elon Musk and only Elon Musk for back taxes, then Elon Musk loses.
But if we go after all the billionaires for their back taxes, then the billionaires can win too, by benefitting from the overall societal improvements.
And so long as the other billionaires are also taking financial hits, any given billionaire isn’t slipping in their billionaire-vs-billionaire game of status. They’re all losing money equally across the board.
The reason to go looking for an argument that takes the billionaires’ benefits into account, is that billionaires are the only ones who can make this tax thing happen. Their influence is too great to do it against their will.
So we need to articulate how the global benefits of those billionaires’ tax money being pooled and spent on commonwealth, is better even for the billionaires than if they’d each individually kept that money.
If they pay their taxes we don’t feed them to pigs. How’s that for a benefit?
That’s plan B, we can’t lead with that. But believe me, it is on the table.
Okay, here’s my suggestion for plan A: We feed them to pigs and take it all. Regardless of the tax situation.
