Title. I don’t follow the anime communities anymore so take it with a grain of salt.

And I swear every popular one is either trying to become viral due a meme or being the same “I’m a loser yet I fell inside my toilet and discovered a new world full of breedable elfs” type… Hell, I bet that’s the actual title of the show.

Also they ALL LOOK THE SAME character art style wise, you know the same pretty clean “digital” style made popular probably by No Game No Life 10 years ago. Yes, I’m sure there’s a hidden 💎 there, it’s always like that but I’m not talking about that 0.5 percent.

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    Sorry but your post feels like someone saying “nowadays cinema is shit” and then ranting “it’s just Marvel and Pixar movies”.

    You don’t even have to look for niche things, just this year we already got Frieren, Dungeon Meshi, A Sign Of Affection, Spice and Wolf 's remake, Kaiju No 8, Oshi No Ko season 2, Metallic Rouge, … All of different genres, kinda mainstream and are nothing like what you said.

    And we are only halfway through the year.

    Don’t be some bitter old person, every mass media mostly market meh things that are easy to produce and sell, but just like every other media, just a quick search for “best anime 2024” get you most of the names I gave you in the 3 first lists.

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      Came here to say this, let me just add Apothecary Diaries to the list of good anime from this year.

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        How could I forget it :( Shouldn’t have forgotten our girl maomao.

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      “it’s just Marvel and Pixar movies”

      I read this and thought three things:

      • Wait: It’s not just Marvel and Pixar movies?
      • Wait: Both of those are just “Disney movies”
      • Wait: Clearly they forgot about sequels. Not only is it all Disney movies it’s sequels of Disney movies
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    I think it’s a mixture of survivorship bias (20 years ago 90% of the crap anime didn’t leave Japan because there was no market for it) and some genuine quality decline. There’s a lot of money to be made in anime, so the safest bet from the corporate perspective is to make the thing that’s been successful a thousand times before. Over time this flattens character design and makes stories progressively blander.

    Independent studios can also pump out trash of course, but at least it tends to be weirder, more interesting trash.

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    There’s a lot of crap out there pandering to the lowest common denominator, that much is true. But this is just Sturgeon’s Law in action. The industry is getting a lot bigger, which means there’s a lot more trash to filter through, but it also means there’s plenty of good stuff being made too.

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      Didn’t know there was a name for this “phenomenon”. Thank you.

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    There’s still good stuff occasionally but the anime industry has produced a lot more trash this past decade. There was an article that explained exactly why but I can’t find it.

    Basically, the anime industry is falling apart on itself. Harsh deadlines and low pay means everyone is rushing everything and prioritizing quantity over quality. Even the most popular anime like Jujutsu Kaisen have had controversies on how they abuse their staff.

    Also the reason most animes have a similar artstyle is to make it easy to onboard new animators and hire freelancers. If everything had a different style it’d be difficult to train animators to keep it consistent.

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    its like all other media. its flooded. there is still good stuff being made though. spy x family, frieren, the duke of death and his maid, doctor stone, cells at work, chainsaw man, bungo stray dogs, tokyo revengers, the ancient maguses bride, goblin slayer, miss kobayashis dragon maid, attack on titan just wrapped and my heor academia is apparently still going but I have not seen a recent season. even some in the genre you mention I have found to be decent like overlord and jobless reincarnation. They are so stereotypical of the genre but somehow I find them better. Something about the characters. There is one where a guy is like an accountant helping the kingdom get better but i forget the name but got to get back to it. lesser but interesting to me is classroom of the elite, assination classroom and shy.

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    Anime has gotten quite popular and with the uptick in new shows you end up with a lot of similar things. I wouldn’t say anime has gotten more cringe because it’s had a lot of cringe as far back as I can remember. Hell, Dragon Ball is pretty pervy and that’s from the 80s. The best shows tend not to have a whole lot. But there’s a lot more series now so all the cringe stuff is just easy to find.

    Finding the good shows among the muck isn’t any different with anime than it it with regular TV or movies. There’s tons of reality TV, crime dramas, medical shows, etc. How many of them actually stand out or stand the test of time. Far fewer than what is produced.

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        You are looing at DB with nostalgia glasses.

        There’s a lot which sucks, but there’s also good animes. We’ve aged, so we’re not the main population to attract. Of course it doesn’t always suit us.

        I wish to point out that, perv stuff has become more mainstream, due to the internet. But it has always exi ted, in the same proortions.

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          False. I don’t believe that bs, I’ve watched db, dbz and gt several times, the humour and perv stuff isn’t nowhere near as suffocating or stupid.

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    No…I think understanding you may not be the target audience for the shows you are seeing is a good place to start, if you wanna watch anime, check out a different genre. I will watch a couple of genres and skip the rest. There were some real nice ones this season as others have said. A sign of affection was very sweet, apothecary diaries had a fun lead and was a nice historical setting. I’m not sure if it was this season but Somali and the forest spirit, the girl from the other side, the fire hunter…etc.

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      Good idea! Here’s some popular genres of today’s anime:

      • Harem
      • Reverse Harem
      • Isekai harem
      • Reverse Isekai harem
      • Slice of life harem
      • Reincarnated as a normally-inanimate object (slice of life, adventure, and harem options available)
      • Awkward teen gets overpowered (usually with harem)
      • Awkward adult gets overpowered (usually with harem)
      • Awkward teen almost gets a girlfriend (wannabe harem)
      • Slime destroying/taming/breeding/harem
      • Romance: Girl “tames” dark, mysterious/misunderstood boy, girl falls for awkward teen who has secret talent/power, and rich/powerful boy falls for awkward girl
      • Period drama from period in Japanese history that no one cares about (even the Japanese) but features samurai!
      • Food obsession (actually this can be any anime these days) / Japanese people fantasizing about eating weird shit
      • Protagonists with special powers fighting bad guys with special powers and/or spirits/yokai
      • Useless gods using mortals to complete tasks that would only take them moments
      • Trying to sell toys/video games
      • Pseudo anime: Chinese animations re-telling the same three stories approved by China’s censors (I hope you like cultivation, the Monkey King, and immortals in “the heavens”!)
      • Pseudo anime: Korean animations that obsess over beauty (endless male and female versions available!)
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        Pseudo anime: Chinese animations re-telling the same three stories approved by China’s censors (I hope you like cultivation, the Monkey King, and immortals in “the heavens”!)

        I do, in fact, like the Monkey King.

        I first ran into him when reading Lawrence Yep’s Dragon of the Lost Sea series, which I loved as a kid, but of which there are only a finite number.

        It wasn’t until many years later, when I was an adult, that I discovered that major elements of Dragon of the Lost Sea were drawn from Journey to the West, including the Monkey King. It was like someone had taken a favorite childhood novel, written a related work aimed at adults, and then put it out years later.

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          Yeah the monkey king is great and all but does he need to be a major character in like half of all the animations‽ 🤣

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        You forgot the mecha/gundam genre that also has at least a love “square”/harem… But then again maybe there’s nothing like that this year

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    Considering OPs response I don’t expect actual discussion, but as a person that doesn’t like most anime tropes what would people consider a good anime that doesn’t fall into the usual trappings? Even if it’s a popular answer my experience is very limited and would love to find the diamonds in the rough.

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      I don’t like to be gaslighted that’s it. Just I just watched crunchyroll trailers for the summer season and it only confirms my opinions. There’s like 1,2 decent looking shows and all the rest are the same garbage that look the same and fall under the category I described. 2 out of 20 something.

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        Oh I see your mistake, you posted this in Casual Conversation not Quickly Escalating Arguments. It’s a classic mistake.

        You want this place

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        Things kinda have been often like that, not everything was a gem back then either, it’s just that

        1. There’s a lot more anime released each season now.
        2. You don’t remember old bad anime.
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      Nothing will make you feel sadder about the future of humanity than looking at the, “what’s popular near me” list on Netflix.

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    As much as I hate the term “cringe” when not being used in its literal sense, anime has always been cringey, but it’s easier to ignore when you’re younger, and the anime itself is older.

    Not all of it is, but the series (as opposed to movies) are really prone to some horribly cringey things.

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    I think there’s probably the same amount of good anime that there always has been. The industry in general has become more profitable, so now there are more corporations that want to squeeze all the money they can out of it, which means a higher volume of trash as well

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    being the same “I’m a loser yet I fell inside my toilet and discovered a new world full of breedable elfs” type

    Isekai?

    Isekai (Japanese: 異世界 transl. ‘different world’, ‘another world’, or ‘other world’) is a subgenre of portal fantasy. It includes novels, light novels, films, manga, anime, and video games that revolve around a displaced person or people who are transported to and have to survive in another world such as a fantasy world, game world, or parallel universe with or without the possibility of returning to their original world. Isekai is one of the most popular genres of anime, and isekai stories share many common tropes – for example, a powerful protagonist who is able to beat most people in the other world by fighting. This plot device typically allows the audience to learn about the new world at the same pace as the protagonist over the course of their quest or lifetime.[1] If the main characters are transported to a game-like world, the genre can overlap with LitRPG.

    The concept of isekai started in Japanese folktales, such as Urashima Tarō. However, the first modern isekai works were Haruka Takachiho’s novel Warrior from Another World and Yoshiyuki Tomino’s television series Aura Battler Dunbine.

    I mean, I reckon “breedable” would be an adult sub-genre…

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    100% used to love anime in the 90s, since then the market has been oversaturated with isekai and tsundere and a billion other tropes that it all got beat like a dead horse.

    Any anime with a whiny male protagonist, American, Japanese or otherwise, is pure cringe, though. Can’t even get through a single episode.