The Times also recounts how Vance’s ties to gay billionaire and right-wing megadonor Peter Thiel began during his time at Yale. He spent hours trying to track down contact information for Thiel after a talk Thiel had given at Yale. This led to the two getting in touch, eventually paving the way for Vance’s career to be funded.
Nooooo shit.
‘Twas money that turned beauty into beast
Peter Theil got Vance every job he’s had since, as personal favors to Theil. There’s even quotes as such, also saying Vance didn’t really work hard either
He articulated a feeling that had until then remained unformed: that I was obsessed with achievement in se — not as an end to something meaningful, but to win a social competition.
- J.D Vance on Peter Thiel
Vance seems to be a vapid social climber with no real principles of his own. I’m not sure if that’s better or worse than an outright true believer.
It’s better, because they can be convinced to change their opinions. For example, Vance called Donald Trump “America’s Hitler” but since he saw being a never-Trump Republican didn’t have a future, he switched to gobbling Trump’s taint. He’d definitely switch to a pro-LGBT stance if he thinks he’d make more money doing so.
The true believers, on the other hand, are the dangerous ones. They’ll refuse to cooperate or compromise on any issue, and when they are on the verge of losing they turn violent. Look at the J6 coup attempt- all the ones who incited it (aka, the ones grifting off of terrorist edging like Alex Jones, Ali Alexander, all the GOP Congress members) changed their tones real fucking quick once the crowd started breaking into the Capitol.
He’d definitely switch to a pro-LGBT stance if he thinks he’d make more money doing so.
That doesn’t make him an ally, or any less dangerous.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m in no uncertain terms saying fuck Vance and I feel sorry for his wife, but that’s what you get when you suckle on the teat of the ultra racist party. I was only examining the question “In a vacuum, would you rather your opponent be a grifter or a true believer?”
I’m not saying I don’t agree with you, but sometimes it is difficult to understand this once we’ve seen Tucker grovel like he did and also knowing the remarks he’s made about Trump in the past.
That entire mindset is so hard for me to comprehend.
There’s tons of money available for grifters prepared to preach right wing doctrine. It’s been a 20+ year project of right wing billionaires, like Thiel These others
Trump is one.
In the UK they fund Farage, Tice, Lee Anderson, etc etc.
They set up TV stations, give them shows etc to funnel money to people who will help undermine democracy. None of this is profitable, it about influence.
The battle playing out in the West now is not left and right. It’s the wealthy vs the ultra rich .
The wealthy centre, characterised by the Dems in the US and Labour in the UK - are interested in maintaining the status quo, protecting their profits and the power structures and bureaucracies that enable them. They might appear moral, but it’s really about “we’re doing very nicely thank you”
The ultra rich, the billionaire class think traditional power structures are constraining their ambition. These are people that would see governments and democracy disassembled, in favour of modern feudalism, they are characterised by Conservatives and Republicans, but they are playing winner takes all.
His book is a gold mine if you’re looking to portray him as a prick.
People talk about hard work all the time in places like Middletown. You can walk through a town where 30 percent of the young men work fewer than twenty hours a week and find not a single person aware of his own laziness.
It’s worse, as true believers tend to be more predictable
At least when they didn’t believe anything, they’ll occasionally respond to pressure by caving instead of doubling down.
In Florida, the governor is going after any teacher who doesn’t write him a letter saying ‘you’re a very special boy and I like you very much’
In West Virginia, State employees have gotten a raise almost every year since the 2018 teacher strike.
And I’m pretty sure a lot of the difference is that him Justice just likes his money and staying in office.
Former trans friend, or trans former friend?
Adjective order is important.
- Make friends with trans
- Throw said trans under the bus
- Become trumps VP
- Profit?
He was profiting from hate before he became TFG’s toady. That’s why he was chosen.
This is what happens when Republicans closet their gayness.
Trump still has satelite dish attached to head, trump-npc confirmed.
He did it for the money and the power?
Well I mean he is rich and powerful. You don’t get that way by being nice. Not in the real world.
Weird that a vulture capital guy would sell his friends and morals out for a bit of money and power. Wonder how much of the country he would happily sell off if trump dies /$
Wonder what Vance had to do for Thiël to prove he was the man for his job
That’s surprising but not shocking. He seems the type. I hope he changes back, but I’m not holding my breath
Shocked Nicholas cage meme
