• FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network
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      I find that system inconvenient, as it does not inform me of how I should eat any given item. Classification for the purpose of classification is insufficient. However, an alternative that allows me to prepare my ustensils based on the classification is useful, and therefore I propose…

      Soup, salad, and sandwich are the three states of food, and they can go through phase transitions. They are closely accompanied by spoon, fork, and knife, respectively.

      • A soup is any food that requires a spoon, and thus includes soups, drinks, cereal with milk, etc. Tipping a container is merely the use of the container as a large and unwieldy spoon, a straw is similarly a spoon when its topology is combined with suction.

      • A salad then is anything bite sized that can be forked, and one’s hands are little more than fleshy forks, the fingers prehensile tines. Popcorn, salads, cut up steak bites, a handful of cheerios, etc.

      • A sandwich is anything that requires it to be cut in order to be consumed, and one’s incisors are merely built-in knives. A sandwich is thus the vast majority of the cube rule’s content, and only because the cube rule focuses on the physical location of the starch. This is, of course, entirely irrelevant when it comes to the consumption of food.

      • To observe a phase transition, one can cut up a sandwich without consuming it, thereby turning it into a salad; can drown a salad to turn it into a soup; can freeze a soup to turn it into a sandwich, etc.

      Shredded cheese is a salad.

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        4 months ago

        While I think your system allows for some really odd edge cases, I like the way you think.

      • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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        I mostly agree with these broad level classifications, except for sandwich. A sandwich refers to the construction (something sandwiched between something else) and also the intended method of consumption (no utensils and rarely a napkin). By your classification a 32oz steak is a sandwich, yet it must be consumed quite differently than an ice cream sandwich.

        I’d change the sandwich category to be the chunk category, and have sandwiches as a subcategory of chunks and salads where the food comes surrounded by edible material that’s easy to handle without utensils.

        There’s also the group of very thin soups that might deserve it’s own group, but that might just be a qualitive difference.

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      I don’t understand how pumpkin pie is toast, but cheesecake is a quiche. Shouldn’t they be the same whichever they are?

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      Not salad, salad is something you can “toss” in a jumble, like popcorn or some kinds of hash browns.

      Salsa is generally more thoroughly mixed than that, so smoothie or maybe soup.

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    I like this statement because it’s successful on two levels. You can also argue over whether “pop-tart” counts as one word or two.

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    Is a hotdog a sandwich?

    I thought about this a lot recently after someone said it, ::: spoiler my opinion is that No, a hotdog is not a sandwich because it is meat inside of a single piece of bread. If you accidentally broke the bun into two pieces you could argue that you’ve made a hotdog sandwich because the meat is still called a hotdog and you’ve got two pieces of bread. That some sub sandwiches are a single nearly split piece of bread I view as an implementation detail moreso than a defining characteristic and not enough to say that sandwiches can be a single piece of bread. :::

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          Bread is a requirement for something to be a sandwich, so you’ll have to convince me that a tortilla is bread. You might be able to make a case for the soft flour tortilla, but I just don’t see how hard corn tortillas can possibly fit under the umbrella of “bread”.

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            If naan is bread and corn bread is bread then naan corn bread is bread

            If we assume toast is still bread then your hard corn tortillas are still bread

    • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It’s an acronym standing for graphic interchange format. Not that I care all that much tbh. Reminds me of parents naming their kid cVIIItlyn. Sure you can pronounce it whatever you want, doesn’t make you any less stupid. Also, iirc it was invented by a team, what do the rest of them say?

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        It’s an acronym standing for graphic interchange format.

        That doesn’t affect how it’s pronounced.

        LASER stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. If you were going to pronounce it based on how those words are pronounced it would be “Lahseer”.

        The best reason to pronounce “gif” with a hard g is that the closest word we have is “gift” and that uses a hard g.

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          4 months ago

          Just wanna say I didn’t downvote you.

          I get your argument, maybe we SHOULD pronounce it lahseer, sounds cool.

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            Lahseer does sound cool, but I’m in favor of words being spelled as fonetikuhly as possible in English.

            • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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              In order to do that, we have to clean up what each letter does first. The whole reason the gif fight started is because G and J overlap in sound values a lot. And don’t get me started on S, C, K, & Q.

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                And O.

                But, still, there are letters that have fairly consistent pronunciations. Where possible we should try to stick with those.

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                  I’ve given up on vowels. Mercedes, Echinacea, Manoeuvre, shield, beige, just throw them around until it looks right.