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    I know that COVID isn’t regarded to be a serious disease if you’re vaccinated and reasonably healthy, but I had mental fogginess for about 2 months after my infection.

    I mostly seemed outwardly okay during that time, but it was a tremendous effort to just do the bare minimum.

    I hope he ducks out if there’s even a fraction of those types of symptoms.

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      A roommate of mine was down for almost two months. He still has some mental lapses and foggy moments. That was over three years ago.

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      It is serious long term for 1/5 people.

      COVID being no big deal is just a lie society agreed on for convenience.

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      I know that COVID isn’t regarded to be a serious disease if you’re vaccinated and reasonably healthy

      Bruh…

      At 81 years old, life is a serious medical condition.

      People of that age die of “little” shit all the time.

      And remember he’s saying he just tested positive, it’s not why he’s been like this for at least the last year it’s that he’s going to be even worse through the election.

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        This is the thing with old age that I think most people won’t understand until it happens to them. The body’s ability to deal with those things severely deteriorates with age. You can be peppy and active one day, and on death’s door the next. COVID has proven to be particularly bad for the elderly, but every “minor” ailment or injury is much more serious, and possibly life threatening given the wrong mix of complications. Biden has probably the best chance being in the position he is, and testing positive isn’t the same as being symptomatic, but he’s by no means free and clear. It’ll be interesting to see how this turns out.

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      I have two young, vaccinated and otherwise healthy family members who lost their ability to work or even walk for more than 100m outside their house for 6+ months. Covid can be extremely serious even now.

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        I’m 42, vaxxed, and what passes for reasonably healthy in the US (which is to say, all kinds of fucked but still technically able to work). I had covid this week and at the peak I actually needed help standing up after kneeling to rummage through a drawer.

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      I didn’t get the mental fogginess but even so, I really haven’t ever felt that I fully recovered. I used to be an Ironman when it came to getting sick but now it’s like I get knocked down every few weeks with some flu-like symptoms.

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        That happened to me. I got COVID pre-vaccine, and for years after that I got every bug going, including multiple COVID infections. After time this seems to have passed. I have now gone one year without COVID, which is a miracle. I feel like my first infection buggered up my immune system. I think I have finally recovered now. I wish you the best of luck.

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          Don’t downvote him, it’s entirely possible. However, it was more sudden of a change than I equate to aging. I know all the other effects, those are more subtle

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            I said maybe not it’s 100% you getting older what are you, crazy? Maybe your health wasn’t ever that good.

            That is closer to gaslighting. Jesus you fucking armchair tiktok psychologists.

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        You don’t need to be hospitalized to get all the antivirals. In fact, that’s the whole thing paxlovid is supposed to prevent. Anyone with risk factors can take paxlovid, and it’s very effective at preventing severe covid. It should be started as soon as possible, not waiting until someone’s already hospitalized. Even in unvaccinated people, if taken early in the course, is 90% effective at preventing severe disease.

        Remdesivir is the one that’s generally only for hospitalized patients, though even that can be used pre hospital too.

        Anyways point is, if you get covid, and have risk factors for severe covid, call your doctor or urgent care to get paxlovid to take if you can, especially if you’re unvaccinated.

        And yeah between getting diagnosed quickly, getting paxlovid I’m sure, and being immunized, Biden will very likely be fine.

        Edit: yes he started paxlovid https://www.npr.org/2024/07/17/nx-s1-5043814/biden-covid

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        Paxlovid isn’t just for hospitals, and for a time it was available for free with any insurance and the barest “medical need.” I got COVID in 2023 and got Paxlovid just by asking the doctor nicely.

        (And despite that, my symptoms were awful and it took two months to fully recover. )

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          still I bet he was diagnosed and given it faster. When it comes to viruses the sooner you stunt the growth curve the more effective it is.

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        My experience has been that the antivirals are pretty easy to get just for a regular case. If you catch it, don’t assume you can’t get them. But do contact your doctor early, as there is a time window. Better to get on them early when you’re not feeling that badly than wait until you think you’re sick enough to justify it.

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      80 year Olds tend to die from covid. Of the things to be concerned about, his mental sharpness is obviously not even a requirement.

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      I know that COVID isn’t regarded to be a serious disease

      Generally by capitalists who want their workforce to keep making them money.

      By the millions who actually get it and are left chronically ill (or who don’t survive at all), many who aren’t “reasonably healthy” yet don’t deserve any less consideration - not so much.

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      He’ll be fine, and he’s not going anywhere. I wish people would drop it.

      I’d vote for his corpse if it will keep Trump out . It doesn’t even matter.

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      Damn, I can’t imagine 2 months of mental fogginess… I’d probably lose my job if that happened to me.

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      We also need to take into account the guy is close to 90. He’s part of the high risk group.

      Edit: Honest mistake, I legit thought he was older than 81 and closer to 90.

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            You know you’ve watched Dune too many times when you start to see parallels between the way prepared by Jessica and Stilgar, and the current jockeying by Pelosi and Schumer. Are we chanting Lisan al-Gaib at the postponed DNC? Schiff of Tabr? To November! The choice was the Dem nominee or the end of democracy, so you’ll forgive me if I’m not flattered.

            The building of the best narrative, the gathering of a large tent, the necessity of correct timing. Then the almighty talk. If not Dune then Kingdom of Heaven or Royal Gemstones. God wills it, Jesse! Things gotta look right for the people.

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      I really hope if for no other reason that I spent a fair bit of time in 2020 telling my friends that Biden wouldn’t make it all the way to the end of his term. I wish the guy well but I love being right.

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        You’re not right you fucking moron, so much so that he’s literally running for pres again, that’s how not right you are you fucking idiot.

        spent a fair bit of time in 2020 telling my friends that Biden wouldn’t make it all the way to the end of his term.

        god that’s pathetic, a fair bit of time? You just hounding your peeps begging them to listen to your Biden-will-die-in-office theories? Lord knows they know just how fucking braindead you are.

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    [T]he President will be self-isolating in accordance with CDC guidance for symptomatic individuals

    Is that still the guideline? I know several people who have gotten COVID recently and just went about like normal, like people used to do when they were sick pre-pandemic. I told one of them they were morons, but they claimed you don’t have to isolate any more since the CDC changed their guidelines.

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        It’s actually worse than that. You’re supposed to isolate until you’re not feverish and your symptoms are improving. Which is not really at all related to when you can spread it.

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          My understanding was that the instructions from the CDC were changed based on when you are likely to be contagious. The research indicated that following the updated guidance is sufficient to prevent/reduce the spread. At least, that’s the explanation I read when they changed the recommendation. Can’t find it now.

          Realistically, it’s not the people who are following the CDC guidance who are spreading COVID.

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            Nope! Most people are most contagious through day 5, and contagiousness often persists through day 10.

            From https://sesamecare.com/blog/how-long-are-you-contagious-with-covid-19 :

            How long are you contagious after you test positive for COVID-19?

            After testing positive for COVID-19, the duration of contagiousness can vary. However, individuals are typically contagious for about 10 days after the onset of symptoms.

            For those with mild to moderate symptoms, this period can be shorter, often around 5-7 days. For people with severe symptoms or those with a weakened immune system, contagiousness can last up to 20 days.

            They also dropped from 10 days to 5 originally because businesses were worried about not having enough employees over the holidays. The CDC is a political organization, not a medical one.

            From https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/when-covid-isolation-come-out-best-time-experts-rcna88174 :

            “It was not a reflection of evidence-based” science, he said. “It was there to stop everything from falling apart.”

            At that time, a large chunk of the population was testing positive all at once because of the highly contagious variant. Recommending that everyone stay home — and out of work — for 10 days would have brought the country to a halt once again, so the five-day plan was put in place.

            Realistically, it’s not the people who are following the CDC guidance who are spreading COVID.

            Not when the CDC recommendations are basically nonexistent. And importantly the CDC recommendations define what businesses support. If the CDC says you don’t have to isolate for 5 days, your boss doesn’t have to give you 5 days of COVID leave.

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      https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/p0301-respiratory-virus.html

      When people get sick with a respiratory virus, the updated guidance recommends that they stay home and away from others. For people with COVID-19 and influenza, treatment is available and can lessen symptoms and lower the risk of severe illness. The recommendations suggest returning to normal activities when, for at least 24 hours, symptoms are improving overall, and if a fever was present, it has been gone without use of a fever-reducing medication.

      So yes, the guidance is that you isolate until you are fever free and other symptoms are at least improving. The major change is that they don’t recommend a fixed length of isolation anymore.

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        Supposed to mask and increase hygiene steps for 5 days after ending isolation as well.

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      Girlfriend had it couple weeks ago. She stayed at home. Missed some important events too. But she rather do that than risk spreading it even more or infecting someone at risk.

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      Who do you think is better briefed on cdc guidelines?

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    It would be pretty funny if Trump survived a bullet, but Biden dies from turbo flu.

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      We live in the Shit Timeline™

      Biden will die, but only after the DNC shoves him in via the remote vote they’re pushing, then we’re stuck with Kamala instead of having the chance for someone like Warren to step up…

      I wish we weren’t so misogynistic and obsessed with name recognition… I think she would have been great if the old folks didn’t just vote the name they know who’s been around forever in the primaries in 16…

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        Yes because picking Anyone over the current VP as the candidate signals you’re doing so well.

        Who honestly thinks they’d pick Anyone but Harris? Again, it’s all fan fic that Anyone but those two will be the nominee.

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      Depends on the timing tbh… If it was maybe 2-4 weeks out from the election, it could potentially galvanize Democratic voters and more people could end up voting for Harris because of it.

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    Well that may be it since he said he’d step aside for a medical condition.

    But since COVID isn’t all that threatening in most cases I doubt he’ll consider that a condition.

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      I don’t know man.

      I had COVID like 7 months ago, and that headache was so god damn bad, I thought my head was gonna explode.

      Imagine the worst tension headache you’ve ever had in your life and it won’t go away even with a thousand milligrams of Tylenol. I couldn’t imagine going through that at eighty one years old

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        This was the most memorable thing about covid for me besides the fatigue. I rarely get headaches but it gave me the worst headache of my life for a solid week.

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          Right? Same with me. I rarely get them too.

          I was tired as fuck and you can’t sleep because the headache is like a vice crushing your head.

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            Really? I had COVID three times but no major headaches. I wasn’t feeling well for 2-3 days, but otherwise it was pretty mild.

            Except, the first two cases were then both followed by about 4 months of total depression. That sucked. Just based on that experience I’m still pretty terrified of COVID, though thankfully the third time I didn’t have that.

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        It affects different people in different ways.

        I had zero headache, a runny nose (but only my right nostril), was a bit fatigued, and thirsty like a man in the desert for a 1,000 days. These lasted 3 days, the mild fatigue about a week.

        Hell of a birthday week that was!

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      This seems like coincidental timing to me. He would definitely have something more severe than just COVID.

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        I don’t know, especially considering the effects of COVID on older folks and long COVID, he may be willing to use this as his step-down excuse.

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          Yeah, can we get someone in there to diagnose some long COVID while he’s still in the acute phase?

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      since COVID isn’t all that threatening in most cases I doubt he’ll consider that a condition.

      In the case of an 81yo with one of the most stressful jobs in the world, though? You bet your ass it is!

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    He is gonna get the same or better treatment as Trump when he got it. You know, the stuff that wasn’t available for us regular people.

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    This spring, i had once a bit fever, nauseous, a little collapse too. After a day it was over, then a rebellious belly for a week. I was often sooner tired, less energy for a while after that. My sis, living with her husband, had the same. That was the new covid, right?

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    Here’s the “health issue” next comes the ending of the re-election. I really thought the cycle would have been a little slower.

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      The DNC is planning of formally nominating the democratic ticket on August 5, which does not leave much time to pick a replacement (even if the replacement is vice president Harris).

      The August 5 date was picked back when everyone thought the nomination was a mere formality, in order to comply with an August 7 deadline from Ohio. Ohio, for its part, has pushed the deadline back to September, but I don’t think the DNC wants to risk a ballot challenge making it’s way to the Supreme Court.

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        can’t they just slap a big mustache on obama and make him run again

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          Whoa, this Arock Bonana fella came out of nowhere, and he seems pretty cool. Have you heard him speak in coherent sentences? I think his brain might be undamaged!

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        even if the replacement is vice president Harri

        I know that’s who it would be, but I’d still be majorly disappointed.

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          Fuck at least she doesn’t have dimensia and can go head to head with Vance in a debate…now who the potential VP is could sink her majorly.

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      They have to speed the fuck up. Compared to most other countries, US election campaigns take forever

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    Jesus christ! If Biden drops out we might trully be fucked now, specially now that it’s clear as day that Kennedy is working with Trump to take votes away from Biden in order to help Trump win. It would take a fucking miracle to get someone with so much energy and sufficiently known to stand against Trump.

    Sorry for my pesism, but I really see things very bleak come November.

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    And just earlier he said he could drop out if a medical issue came up. Maybe this is it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/us/politics/biden-health-election-drop-out.html

    Here’s a tweet from after the notorious debate where he messed up, and claimed afterwards that he had a cold:

    https://x.com/pot8um/status/1806520057003999491

    I mostly don’t want him to drop out, but after that debate performance, covid was the first thing I thought of.