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I can carry 8 modern hand grenades, or 2 of those things.
We should use those ball throwers for dogs. Imagine the distance you could get! Then you could have 8 normal grenades and throw them stupid distances.
An atlatl for grenades!
A splatlatl, if you will.
baseball.
The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.
That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades.
Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.
I thought it was American football as the design is more shaped to be more closely resembling a hand held size 🏈
American football was simply more popular back then too, but a little less now in terms of ratio, but the crowd has still grown instead of shrinking/stagnantion
A football is WAY bigger than a grenade, and football was way less popular in the 40s because 1. Baseball came first and 2. Baseball is better in person and TVs sucked. Even if more people play football now, it’s still better to design grenades around baseballs because you spend more time practicing with a ball in baseball, and only one person per team knows how to throw a football.
Bcs electricians kept using them as hammers.
You can bonk someone with it as well.
>can give you pleasure
Are we saying blowing stuff up is fun, or telling you to go fuck yourself with a grenade?
Yes.
Let me go further: spikes.
This destroys the butthole.
SPIKES
I’d be tempted to use it as a mace… Probably a poor choice.
Thanks chief
Ooh, bonus shrapnel!
What in the Call of Duty is this shit?
They’re from Halo
Can give you pleasure
Idk, the round ones do just fine for me, just a bit different form of pleasure.
I just tie a sting around those little rings so I don’t lose the pineapples & can safely pull them out again.
Pineapples are ribbed for pleasure
If you shit out a ring, you’d best hope you haven’t been skipping your kegels.
And you can choose if you want a tail or an inside tickle.
The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.
I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.
Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations
A minor addendum, the M24 and M43 stick grenades both had fragmentation sleeves produced for them. These could be quickly fitted over the grenades to change them from offensive to defensive grenades. Similar to the RGD-33 stick grenades used by the Soviets.
I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.
The difference between offensive and defensive grenades is defined by how much fragmentation they produce. Without a fragmentation sleeve, a German stick grenade produces blast and concussion but very minimal fragmentation, making it’s practical danger area smaller. This is good for an offensive grenade where the person throwing it likely has less cover than the person receiving it. A defensive grenade produces fragmentation, and is desired when the person throwing it has cover to hide behind safely.
The non-stick grenade commonly used by the Germans in WW2, was the Model 39 (“egg grenade”), and it actually came in both offensive and defensive flavors. So really, either a stick or egg grenade could be used for either role.
Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.
Hmm…defensive hand grenades. There’s something crazy I’ve wondered before; is there anywhere it’s legal to use hand-grenades as a form of home defense?
Let’s say you live on a big property in the middle of nowhere, like a ranch out in West Texas. So you know that if you detonate a hand grenade on your property, you can be absolutely sure that the fragments won’t fly through your walls and hit a neighbor. Let’s say you live alone, and you’re so stupid wealthy that you don’t give a damn about grenade damage in your own home.
Imagine this is true. Is there anywhere in the US you could legally keep a crate of hand grenades in a gun safe, and just start chucking them at a home invader?
It isn’t legal to own hand grenades in the US so I would imagine the self defense part would be irrelevant.
Though I’d imagine it they might be allowed if they were legal because you can use, say, your car as a weapon in self defense…
Also they’re way bigger, taking more space in storage and when in transport
We have grenade launchers now.
Someone needs to make one that fires the stick grenades. At 3500 RPM.
Once again NCD reinvents the bolter
Life, uh, finds a way.
The 30mm “Barrett” Pattern bolter, created by MARS, Inc. and Barrett, is currently undergoing evaluations by the US Army.
Everything old is new again.
Wake up babe new A-10 ammo just dropped
Yeah, the basic premise for these things is that they have a smaller radius, but you can throw them further, so the enemy has to deal with it exactly the same, but since the radius is smaller and you threw it further, it gives you a much larger space in which you can advance and not worry about shrapnel. Basically lob a couple and while you don’t have to deal with so much suppressive fire, advance and find cover and do it all over again.
For defensive scenarios, you generally aren’t advancing, you’re just wanting the enemy to not advance, so a pineapple works just as well, if not better. It gives you a big boom, and psychologically that gives you an edge. You might also get flushed out and wind up in close quarters kinds of environments where the grenade on a stick just doesn’t work, but the pineapple is easy enough to lob out of a window or bunker or around a corner. In any sort of urban or close quarters environment you’d want the flexibility of a baseball as opposed to throwing a bat.
Kind of a trench war novelty, but they’ve evolved to be more of an antiarmor thing - throw a parachute on it so it’s aligned vertically, make it detonate when it lands, make it blow straight down as opposed to all over the place, and try to get that thing to land on a tank
throw a parachute on it so it’s aligned vertically, make it detonate when it lands, make it blow straight down as opposed to all over the place, and try to get that thing to land on a tank
You’ve basically just described a HEAT round without the melted copper penetrator.
Thought HEAT rounds were tank fired and traveled horizontally (ballistically)?
HEAT is just a type of warhead. You can put it into lots of things. You are correct that the front of the warhead needs to be facing the target.
In hand grenades, the penetrator usually faces down compared to the “stick”. The sticks in these grenades are not simple wooden sticks, but hollow metal ones containing parachutes. The grenade is meant to be thrown in a large arc or dropped from above (from a bridge or building) on to the tank. The parachute helps drag the back of the grenade and keep the penetrator pointed at the target (maybe).
Actually, they just described a HEAT grenade. Of the cute anti-armor grenades with parachutes, the RKG-3 is a great example. The purpose of the parachute is to make sure the HEAT penetrator is facing the right direction.
close quarters kinds of environments where the grenade on a stick just doesn’t work!
Counterpoint: Team Fortress 2 - Caberknight
I would assume in bunkers you don’t want to try to throw the stick version through the small slits or windows.
why stop a grenades? I wanna see some two handers.
Technically all rifle is two hander
Nuclear two hander grenade.
I wanna see nun chuck grenades
Why not regular pineapples and a lacrosse stick or an ahtlatl?
Or you know, an M203 Grenade Launcher.
It is such a pain to summon the time portal to use that in WW2.
Really basic overviews incase anyone is vaguely curious
Clearly their biggest weakness was not being heavy enough. I suggest the next generation have a baseball bat for a handle.
