• DharkStare@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    I really wish the people who say shit like this would realize how pathetic it makes them sound. I have never once felt my masculinity was being threatened because the player character in video game was female.

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        9 days ago

        When given the option, I pick female/woman presenting. When given the option, I pick black or poc. When given the option, I give them a killer outfit so they can slay all day.

        As a straight white Jewish man, I like to imagine that I’m the quintessential oppressed citizen ready to take everything down with all I have. Anytime I kill a bad guy, a good guy, some random bystander, whatever, I tell them to shut the fuck up cuz I’m taking this all down.

        At least, that’s how I justify it to myself. Maybe I just like strong black women and killing literally everyone.

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          9 days ago

          Uhh…

          I think I recognize your username and I think I’ve seen some good takes from you and you’re not just pulling a bit… but that’s kinda weird, lol.

          Is there like a therapist you can go to in order to unpack your privilege/oppression mix and work through stuff like this? Asking for me, actually. (I could probably get it billed under trans stuff in my case though, lol)

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            Oh wow, I see what you’re saying. I’m doing a terrible job communicating tonight and my miscommunication is coming out as incredibly alarming dialogue.

            You know, I’d like to try explaining my comment so that you can understand the missing context, but I don’t know how long of an essay I’d have to write to do that. Rereading that comment outside my own head for a moment, I see something that makes me think “holy shit, this guy is fucked.” So, apologies, I’ll try to do better next time.

            The one clarification I’d like to make: I don’t like killing people. I don’t like gore videos or any of that. Horror movies are cool; real horror, not my jam. I like killing people/things in video games. The way I see it, a group of people went through a lot of trouble making me be able to interact with things in games and death animations, etc. I like to push every video game as far as I can to see how stuff will interact. The first time I booted up Cyberpunk 2077, I spent hours punching every object in the game to find out what breaks how with what audio and if I could get the game to crash by focusing on all the wrong stuff.

            Anyway, game death and destruction=good; real stuff=bad. Sorry for the alarming comment. And to answer your question, yes, I see a therapist and think that everyone should get to talk to a therapist. Mental health is no joke. I appreciate you checking in on me.

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      7 days ago

      I’ve never felt my masculinity challenged by anything. Because I am a man and whatever I or anyone else does will not make that different. What a bunch of weak, soft, clowns people complaining that women exist in video games or the “transvestigators” are.

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    9 days ago

    Not interested in…

    Metroid.

    Perfect Dark.

    Mirror’s Edge.

    Parasite Eve.

    Portal.

    Half of Resident Evil.

    All of these pivotal, classic games have great female protagonists, and came out before Obama got elected… probably before this person was even born?

    Maybe somebody could try the ‘return to tradition’ approach with this fool.

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      9 days ago

      Even The Witcher itself. You might not play as a woman, but seriously, the women are definitely the shining stars of the series.

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        9 days ago

        If you wanted to include earlier games with great, compelling woman characters who you don’t singly/primarily play as, the list would be even longer.

        Tons of em from party based RPGs alone.

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      As a kid, who doesn’t get a little warped by Samus Aran being female? Maybe it was just my experience growing up in the christocultist world, but I was in denial about Samus at ~7-8 years old with my only familiarity being passive and Smash Bros.

      Now I see anyone that has a similar outlook as being ~7-8 years old in their cognitive development and KAFS

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      Guess he didn’t play Horizon either? Fucking dumb ass. I don’t ever remember thinking or feeling that I was the main character in the last Witcher. I for one look forward to playing this character.

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        9 days ago

        I do remember them noticing Aloy had peach fuzz and immediately jumped to the conclusion that any woman not waxing her face in the roboapocalypse must be trans…

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          in the roboapocalypse

          Even better, post ecological collapse, with the only culture carried over to the auto incubated new humans being the teachings passed on by robot kindergarden teachers, because the robot schools didn’t end up working correctly.

          Presumably facial waxing is not part of the kindergarden curriculum :-D

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    I’m not interested in playing as a vampire. I am a human. Breaks my immersion. I think there should be two options. One for vampyr and one for human.

    Seriously though, this pathetic misogynist is a joyless snowflake.

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      A polarizing question. Me, I always play a version of myself. More muscular, perhaps, or more adventurous. But still a middle-aged dude who is trying to do good. I never feel the urge to play a woman or a villain or anything else totally different from my IRL character.

      And I guess that’s just how it is, right? We each make our own fun in the games we play.

      So the dude in the xitter post is just going to have to sit this one out. I’m sure there will be lots of male centric stories to play in the future, as there always have been.

      Meanwhile, I hope everyone who likes playing from a female POV has an absolute blast with The Witcher 4.

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        I usually play a female. I’ve always considered my character as a companion, a waifu, if you will.

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          You play as a female character and see her as your companion.

          I play female characters because I like to control women.

          We are not the same. /s

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      Plus, you get to stare at a hot female ass for most of whatever you’re playing. Playing females is the straightest choice imho.

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      My favorite games of all time tend to be party-based, like Syndicate, the Wasteland games, the original two Fallout games, Baldur’s Gate games, etc.

      So I guess when given the choice, I always play… um…

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    I remember when this totally broke my immersion back in the 1990s…

    Didn’t they understand that I wanted to raid tombs as a MALE?!

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    TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY MOTHERFUCKER!

    As a cis-femme gamer I am SO SICK of playing as grizzled, middle-aged cis-men in every goddamn game with a set story.

    Games where you can pick the gender of the protagonist don’t count. Whether you play as Man-Shep or Fem-Shep, Mass Effect is exactly the same and the gender choice is exclusively cosmetic. There are very few games with female protagonists that actually commit to the protagonist being a woman and delving into what that entails.

    Just in this first trailer, Ciri is trying to save a young woman from being used as a maiden sacrifice and that is a much more emotionally complex situation for her as a young woman herself. I will be pre-ordering Witcher 4 the second it is available because I want more studios to make games with women as the main playable characters so that I can have immersion in my games too.

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      Not to mention that in Witcher 3 there were already plenty of Ciri “flashback” missions.

      I kinda wonder if they’ll be doing the same in reverse and she’ll be saving Geralt’s ass this time around as the main plot

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      While I agree with the rest. I think we have learned enough about the current state of game release and if we should preorder.

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        I haven’t pre-ordered a game since Halo: ODST when I was getting a physical copy from GameStop. I am very aware of the problems with pre-ordering, and I still want to pre-order Witcher 4 because I want to send the message that they did not make a mistake by making Ciri the main/playable character.

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      Mmm but any game that provides a different storyline based on gender is opening themselves up to no end of criticism. There’s just no way they’ll ever win that one.

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    I usually feel so immersed when playing white haired super-ripped giants with magic powers. It’s as if they were a second me, except for the hair, size, muscles, facial traits, strength and magic powers.

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    Have these people even played Witcher 3? Because there you play as Ciri too sometimes. Her moveset was really fucking cool actually

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      Also this is one of the games where you play a character that has personality already, self insertion isn’t intended.

      Geralt of Rivia, Lara Croft, B.J. Blazkowicz, Faith Connors, Alan Wake, Max Caulfield, Joel Miller, Ellie Williams, and probably Doomguy those are all roles that you play.

      In contrast you have games like Skyrim, Elden Ring, Terraria, Cyberpunk 2077, Far Cry, Valheim and most classic MMORPGs, where you have a playable character that you can form to your own design.

      That’s just fundamentally a difference in design. Complaning that you can’t self insert in a game of the first category doesn’t make sense.

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          Yeah he’s borderline, I wasn’t sure if it was a good idea to include him.

          He’s silent, but he has always had a face and was emoting with it a bit even in 1993.

          Now in the latest two titles he’s still silent, and you don’t see his face as often, but on the other hand he has started emoting with actions. For example breaking the screen Samual Hayden is using to try and convince him that it was worth the risk to experiment with the hell powers that flooded in.

          There is also tons of lore describing his motivations and previous actions. In the end for me that tips the scale towards him being a preexisting character that you play as. But I can also see that one can ignore that and self insert pretty easily.

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      Of course not. I am rather confident that at least some of these people are doing it as a false flag. Trying to discredit critics of genuine bad character and game design.

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      Actually thats the only thing i am bummed about. The ‘blink’ moves she had were so fun. Other than that, seems like the hard choices are back!

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    It’s gay to play male characters bc you’re staring at a dude all day. True hetero males play female characters because it is most hetero to look at attractive women.

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      That…is actually why I often choose women, tho. I mean not to be “hetero”, I’ll just take a woman’s ass over a dude’s.

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      Technically, you’re always seeing you own nose, so you’re always staring a man. The least gay thing for a man is to become a woman. But then looking at other women would be gay so you have to look at other men. As a man I safe myself some trouble and skip the first step and just look at beautiful sexy men all day, because I’m not gay.

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        You have gone too far into hetero and swung back around to gay. Your only hope now is to become so gay you swing the polarity back.