• cobysev@lemmy.world
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    Millennial here. I tried to watch Seinfeld back in the day, and I thought it was kind of meh. But there was one character I really hated on the show. He had a whiny pathetic voice, was always complaining about something or another, and was just an awful actor, unlike the rest of the cast. I thought, if they just removed that one guy, the show would be great and I’d enjoy it so much more.

    I found out later, that guy was Seinfeld. So… I never really got into the show.

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      THANK YOU! I can’t stand that guy. His voice kills me and I never found him funny. Nothing against him personally, he might be a great person, but I can’t understand how people can stand the content he makes.

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        Good news! Seinfeld is a pedophile and supposedly kind of a sociopath. He’s also tried to hop on the anti-woke train a couple of times in the past few years.

        The man made a major contribution to western cultus as a whole, but man is he a bastard.

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          I’ve seen a few episodes of his show where he takes comedians to get a coffee in his fancy cars. He often comes across like an asshole. Sometimes I wonder if he’s in charge of the show why he would want to be portrayed that way? Presumably he could edit some stuff out?

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            I assume it’s supposed to be part of the comedy, that’s kind of the point of the show, they’re all terrible, so assuming he’s kinda playing the character that could make sense.

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              Not Seinfeld the show, I’m talking about an interview show Seinfeld the man does. I dont think it’s scripted. But yea he could just be playing up his persona, idk.

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      Yeah also a millennial and it’s just… not that funny? I get that plenty of shows haven’t aged perfectly, so it’s not that. Friends has plenty of moments that haven’t aged well (lots of gay jokes about Chandler come to mind), but the comedy still holds up really well. Seinfeld… Not so much.

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    Meh, Jerry Seinfeld has been pushing the “I’m too offensive for young people” and “I’ve been cancelled” nonsense for a while now. He’s just old and not funny anymore. Turns out telling the same jokes for 30 years doesn’t get a lot of laughs. What is the deal with millennials anyway!

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      he unequivocally walked that back recently. said he was wrong to think that and it isn’t a thing. he probably had a talk with his kid or something.

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        He probably had a long talk with his PR counselor and was advised that he stood to loose more then he would gain if he stuck to that.

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          I don’t care honestly. the message is more important than the motive.

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    That right there is some clickbait. I’m millennial and I was watching the show when it was on and loved it.

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    Isn’t that the whole fucking point of the show though? The main characters are terrible selfish assholes?

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    Are we talking about “Seinfeld”, the slightly overrated comedy TV series, or “Seinfeld”, the horrible human being?

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    I’m an Xer and I didn’t like Seinfeld, but that’s mostly because I don’t like embarrassment comedy. It’s the same reason I don’t like Will Ferrel and Ben Stiller, but to each their own. I don’t begrudge anyone else finding it funny, it’s just not my vibe.

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      I’m not saying you have to like Seinfeld or anything, but I wouldn’t consider it embarrassment comedy. It’s more about the gang being a bunch of sociopaths, like an early version of IASIP.

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      I agree on the embarrassment humor. Cringey stuff is worse than the most hellacious and gory horror to me most of the time.

      Sienfeld never really hit me that way, though. It just seemed stupid and contrived in a very “look how edgy and relevant I am” sort of way.

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    Not saying it’s not funny, but there is definitely stuff in the show that wouldn’t fly today. For example there is an episode where George didn’t know black people ate salad.

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      I don’t like Seinfeld, but isn’t George supposed to be an utter dunce?

      Like, as a Zoomer, people not being able to tell the difference between portraying bigotry and endorsing it IS an actual problem I see.

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        I am reminded of Sokka’s character in the new version of the Avatar (show) compared to the original animated one. In the original animated one, he portrays sexism and very much feels the consequences of it, and grows as a character when overcoming it (through warranted humiliation). The new show never included any of this and so his character lacks all of this. It’s like the writers think they’re endorsing his sexism if they ever included such a thing.

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          I don’t think they are afraid of it, I think they just wanted to portray a more serious character overall. Live action lens itself to that serious tone, where It would be hard to replicate some of the slapstick gags in the anime and trying would fall flat.

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          He is also based on Larry David himself, and many of the most outrageous stunts he does in Seinfeld, David has done in real life. For example, George quitting his job just to regret it immediately and going back the next day as if nothing had happened, is based on Larry David doing exactly that as a writer on SNL. He made a big scene and quit, and just went back after the weekend and pretended like he’d been joking. Larry David is an interesting man to say the least.

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            He made a big scene and quit, and just went back after the weekend and pretended like he’d been joking.

            Sounds like the whole situation could’ve been avoided by him curbing his enthusiasm

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      I heard on a podcast today that Larry David based the George character on himself. (The podcast is called Good Bad Billionaire, where a couple of people judge various billionaires on their ethics etc. TIL Jerry Seinfeld is a billionaire.)

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        This was just the 80s-2000s in general.

        There’s a lot of really uncomfortable stuff portrayed for laughs during that era.

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      For example there is an episode where George didn’t know black people ate salad.

      We’re still getting asked questions like this and honestly, should be highlighted:

      Pure facepalm Questions I’ve overheard or was involved in:

      • Can black people use the same shampoo as white people
      • If Muslim women wore the hijab in the shower
      • Is the southeast asian vagina 90 degrees
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    This whole “young people find everything offensive” narrative is ridiculous, and always has been. It’s very beneficial to those who want to shift the Overton window, though.

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    Almost every time an article like this is posted, the contents are the result of one or two comments out of thousands, or a Reddit post that didn’t gain much traction outside of “eh, sure, I guess?”

    Tangentially related, IMO there should be an “author review” site, where if someone posts a stupid article like this, it is referenced in a database against their name and their frame of reference for the content is called out. Rank “journalists” against this, and eventually the people starting out in the industry posting AI-generated shite that doesn’t hold up will start to err on the side of caution.

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      You’ve just re-invented journalistic standards and peer review.

      It is how the news cycle is supposed to work. One journalist says something, others verify or disprove it publicly.

      The problem is that there is now no difference between journalism and content or between news channels and platforms.

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    I did a re-watch in the last couple years. Most of it was fine, even if it would not be a big hit these days. Jerry dates the Asian women? Yea that would get called out most likely. Elaine dates a guy she thinks is black? Pretty sure that still flies. Elaine is scarred she’s dating a murderer? Probs a special two part episode these days. Shocks me how ahead of the curve they were with the Elaine gets gaped episode.