It’s sorta like a camp, but concentrated on one type of person…
There should be a name for such a thing
Maybe a motto.
Maybe something like “Work will set you free.”Or “To each their own”.
What does this reference?
That was written on the gate at the Buchenwald concentration camp (“Jedem das Seine”)
Ah, I didn’t know this one. I only knew work will set you free. Thank you
Welcome to Camp Green Lake!
Concentration camp/torture camp.
Lots of people fantasize about what they might do if they had the opportunity to act to stop what was happening in WWII Germany but here we are.
All the big, strong, don’t-tread-on-me styled people just rolling on their backs and showing their bellies to fascism. What a time to be alive, at least Germans of the 1920s-30s didn’t have a direct case study to refer to.
It’s always been “don’t tread on me”
Its worse in some ways, the US is a far bigger country. While the 3rd reich destroyed their economy under the repayment plans of WW1 The US seems to be committing a similar kind of economic suicide with absolutely zero pressure to do so.
I knew the concentration camps were coming, but just after ten days? Holy shit
The faster they move the more they can get done before their opponents can mobilise resistance.
I would say that so far, there appears to be much less public resistance to Republican policies than in previous years. The Democrats appear to be at sea. The left’s working class base is split. Public institutions are too busy protecting their turf, making gestures at cooperating with the new world order rather than trying to resist.
It feels like last time there was an assumption that
Trump and MAGA politicsa criminal dictator and fascist politics were a blip or aberration from the norm, now there’s an acceptance that they’re institutionalised.Trump and MAGA politics
Maybe the language we use to describe them is itself normalising and pacifying. Like calling a Nazi salute a “hand gesture.”
I would suggest “a criminal dictator and fascist politics” as a substitute in your sentence to provoke an acceptable, proportionate reaction.
He is not quite a dictator yet. Let’s call him an aspiring dictator, to make it clear that action can still prevent it from getting that bad.
I like it.
Rather unfortunately, the mass deportations was one of the most popular parts of Trump’s platform. Everybody knows mass deportation comes with concentration camps. It’s not that his voters are unaware of it, they actively love it!
Honestly, I was expecting them in less time. Like 2-3 days in.
America’s first camp…in 83 years.
Thanks conservatives.
It won’t be the last
Speed running the third Reich over here. Has the doctor given him bad news?
Any% nazi run WR incoming
If Trump dies, you’ll have Vance , who is arguably worse, because his brain isn’t riddled with cheeseburgers and adderall, but regardless of who is wearing the crown, it’s people like Stephen Hitler Miller who is running project 2025 and putting the ideas in Donnie’s head.
MAGA has a hardon for cruelty. It’s about hurting people. They love the idea a rounding up non-white people, loading them into boxcars, and shipping them off to concentration camps. Everything that Trump has done so far is going make billionaires richer and regular Americans much poorer but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him.
Right wing politics in a nutshell
Exclusion & Sadism
Can I just make the point here that Not All Sadists
Well yeah, There are Leftist sadist too
but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him
What I find fascinating is the right-wing illegal immigration latinos who support Trump. Up until now they’ve been saying “He’s not going to deport us, he’s deporting the criminals”. I just read a news article about half of the people they’ve arrested so far did not have any criminal records.
White House press secretary goes live the other day and says “We’re going to deport all of them. They’re all criminals as far as I’m concerned”
I think people have this instinctual burning desire to feel part of an “in-group” and to hate against an “out-group”. It’s such a strong burning desire that people will jump through so many mental hoops even when they are in the “out-group”.
Note that being illegal is not a crime. It’s like when you get a parking ticket. It’s against the law but it isn’t a criminal violation. But of course the administration doesn’t care and neither does the army of rabid Americans cheering on the destruction of the country.
As an added note, they deported multiple children to Colombia the other day. Half the people they’ve arrested in specific areas have zero criminal records. Some are even US citizens. This is not for immigrants, this a Latino concentration camp.
I know two people first hand who have been here for over 30 years with no criminal records who are being detained. These are the people being sent to Guantanamo.
Some are even US citizens.
Some are indigenous.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/navajo-detained-ice-indigenous-immigration-trump/index.html
“It’s too kind to say it’s racism or discrimination. It’s disrespect for humanity.”
Source on citizens being rounded up?
Both the most US thing you could possibly do AND a gross violation of what the US aspires to be.
*aspired
I’m still not clear what the first “A” in maga is supposed to reference, seeing what’s happening these days. All I know is that it’s clearly not “America” or a reference to the US.
Aryans
as in Make Aryans Great Again which I get as a valid concern for them because of how pathetic and hateful right-wing white nationalist jerks are. I mean have you ever actually spent 5 minutes listening to JD Vance? I can feel my masculinity deflating in real-time into a weird smelly ingrown hatred of women and I have to shut if off before my skin begins to crawl…
spits on ground
Oops look at me I meant to spit on A’murica but I must have missed because I hit stolen indigenous land that was brutally and horrifically stolen from the hands of normal, good people who looked a bit different and lived (and yet live) in funny houses.
…and then twice stolen from immigrants who came here and were desperate (and at times foolish) enough to believe they would be included in the prosperity they spent extraordinary amounts of effort building…
… (or they were just kept in chattel slavery/a series of disgusting echoes of it)
Third time is the charm?
“Again”
It’s the “G” that’s confusing you. “Great” in this context means “Christian White Nationalist.”
My grandmother fought in the Dutch resistance, helped people who were Jewish escape, and was put in a camp. She died a few years ago. This is how that happened, too. And we’re all watching. Even with americas vaunted 2nd amendment, Russian-backed fascists just walked in and took over, and everyone is just watching them. No riots, no fighting back, just passive resistance.
I wish all of you the best of luck. I’m going to go hug my kids.
It’s coming and Americans are refusing to see the oncoming headlights.
Your grandmother sounds like a fucking hero
She really was. The war changed her forever, though. On her death bed she disavowed her lifelong Roman Catholicism, saying “No God would allow what I have seen and lived.”
Before that she was an absolute badass and had many dalliances with a man of the clergy, causing his expulsion from the order.
Russian-backed
USians try not to blame other countries for their own fascism challenge: impossible version
Fièrement pas tabarnak Américain, bien versé dans psyops Russes. Erreur facile à faire, vatnik.
Je ne sais pas pourquoi tu me parles en français. Me podrías hablar en español, oder auf Deutsch auch. I’m not a vatnik, fuck the capitalist modern Russian government, it’s actively oppressing people I hold very dear for being women or LGTBQ. I’m just fucking exhausted of Americans having to explain away fascism in their country in racist terms like “White Taliban” or “y’allqaida”.
I’m not a vatnik, fuck the capitalist modern Russian government
Then why the fuck are you arguing against the reality that Trump is a manchurian candidate for Russia?! That Russia is spreading psyops online to agitate people in Canada, the US, Europe, etc, to vote Conservative? I’m not ‘blaming’ Russia, it’s a fact that Russia is causing a lot of this to happen. No-where did I assuage the US of any guilt, I just pointed out that Russian-backed fascists: Trump, Elon, the entire Republican party, just took over. They are literally backed by Russia, this is not some conspiracy or hand-waving, it’s reality. I didn’t use any racists terms, I didn’t shift focus to the middle east, I merely said, how fascism is happening in the US and blaming them for watching it happen. You’re strawman-ing with the ‘white taliban’/etc comments, you know damn well I didn’t say that.
Stop fucking helping them by parroting them. I know there’s an exhaustion in you, I have it too, but this isn’t how we do what you want.
So now I have to deal with racism because Russia bad? Actually no, fuck that. Modern capitalist Russia is a consequence of the USA, it’s backwards my man. The USSR, upon dissolving, was auctioned to the most corrupt bidder in a fashion dictated by the MIT. The US CREATED the Russian oligarchy that now directs Putin’s actions, the fact that it went rogue is no different than with the “mujahedeen” turning into the Taliban.
Buying into this framework that everything is Russia’s fault is ahistorical bullshit. Who’s behind the invasion of Iraq? And behind the genocide in Gaza? Who’s behind the invasion and carpet bombing of Vietnam and Korea? Behind the rehabilitation of Nazis in Operation Paperclip? Who supported fascism in Spain? Fuck even the caricature rightist presidents like Bolsonaro, Boris Johnson or Milei are copies of fucking Trump. The US is simply the MOST EVIL empire on Earth, Russia is also evil but it happens to have less economic and diplomatic power for now so the consequences are less all-encompassing. FFS WHO ELECTED A SIEG-HEIL ENJOYER IN THE GOVERNMENT.
Framing everything in “Russia bad” narrative isn’t only racist, it literally shrugs away all the evils of the American empire and that’s simply not something I’m willing to do.
Don’t blame the Russian for what the US is doing. A country that spent years of committing war crimes and establishing laws that invade privacy, haunting down journalist and humanitarian, is destined to use that power to abuse their own people sooner or later regardless of foreign intervention.
Don’t blame the Russian for what the US is doing
Я сделаю все, что захочу, товарищ.
I don’t know anything but isn’t Guantanamo Bay, like, kinda small?
That’s only an issue if you assume they’ll be treated with any humanity
Don’t worry, they’ll find a way to pack people in. Maybe some kind of high energy weight loss system like their role models used in the 1940s?
This is bad juju. The detention camps from the first cycle with this fascists was nothing on what we’re seeing ramping up here.
Don’t worry, they’ll find a way to pack people in. Maybe some kind of high energy weight loss system like their role models used in the 1940s?
I’m sure they are already working on the final solution.
Now I want someone to ask trump “what’s your final solution for these people?”
At it’s peak it held about 800 prisoners, kinda impossibly small for the numbers discussed here.
Edit-- Well, trump did say “Most people don’t even know that we have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo”, I guess file me with most people. Must be incredible how they scaled up while simultaneously closing camps and losing facilities to disrepair, apparently.
This feels like “how many dead babies can you fit in a trash can?”
Depends on how good your blender is.
I must’ve missed that episode of “Will it Blend”.
Doesn’t matter how many beds they have, Trump doesn’t want them making it past the showers.
But I’m sure there will be all sorts of bipartisan and humanitarian oversight. Right?
Right?
It’s not like you can just make a single “undocumented” person disappear. Let alone their whole nuclear family. What would the rest of their family say?
Probably “can I crash in your attic”.
Could it be that Trump is lying?
Yes, it’s a camp where he plans to concentrate people.
I think that’s a bonus for Trump. Also, Cuba should reject our lease on the land.
To the best of my knowledge, although the U.S. makes “lease payments” on the land the prison sits on, they do not have the authorization of the Cuban government, which in turn has not cashed those checks.
Oh my God, what if they cashed them all at once and emptied out America’s checking account.
All the better for them to die faster of unliveable conditions, it seems
Guantanamo Bay… the blacksite for literal terrorists that is considered highly controversial for literal terrorists? What the actual fuck.
The blacksite for innocent people kidnapped and tortured for 20+ years by the US without allegations and then released*
Indeed, not that it wasn’t actually filled with victims, more that people who think it specifically houses terrorists think it is unfit/illegal for that purpose.
Call your senators
https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm?Class=1
Call your representative in the house
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
It’s “illegal” migrants now. But it will be us eventually! Do not let it get to that point. They did not win this election by a landslide, and they can only do as much damage as we let them!
This is a concentration camp, we’re past the point of calling.
So what are you going to do about it? Just sit there and let it happen?
It’s cute that you think senators have any power anymore. I’m guessing you think the next election won’t be Russia-style too.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted, when will Americans understand this? Their political system is done, there’s no turning back at this point, it’s gone beyond the event horizon. The only question is how long will Americans continue to bicker and bitch while they see how much worse things get. You have concentration camps now, 10 days in, what will it take? Where is the line that they cross when you know they’re a threat to your life? When the soldiers are already banging your door?
Concentration camps killed and tortured millions.
At this point, you’re very much still exaggerating. Is it possible we’ll get to concentration camps? Sure. But we aren’t right now, as you are spreading. As of now there’s not much different than his first term, remember the kids in cages? Also terrible, but very far from concentration camps, where they killed and tortured millions.
Concentration camps killed and tortured millions.
At this point, you’re very much still exaggerating.
This is exactly how it happened.
From its rise to power in 1933, the Nazi regime built a series of incarceration sites to imprison and eliminate real and perceived “enemies of the state.” Most prisoners in the early concentration camps were political prisoners—German Communists, Socialists, Social Democrats—as well as Roma (Gypsies), Jehovah’s Witnesses, gay men and men accused of homosexuality, and persons accused of “asocial” or socially deviant behavior. Many of these sites were called concentration camps. **The term concentration camp refers to a camp in which people are detained or confined, usually under harsh conditions and without regard to legal norms of arrest and imprisonment that are acceptable in a constitutional democracy. **
Explain to me how sending people to Guantanamo Bay, already infamous for torturing inmates, is somehow not exactly this?
I cannot BELIEVE people will hand wave stuff like this or Elon’s Nazi salute so we have to wait until they’ve killed a million people before we’re ALLOWED to say what we KNOW is happening.
So people should only start any action after the damage is done? After the torture and death of millions? Because only then it is undeniably similar to WW2 concentration camps. I would propose not to wait for that.
Concentration camps killed and tortured millions.
The first concentration camps were established by the British during the Boer War. There were deaths from malnutrition and disease, but no poison gas or bullets in the head. More malign neglect.
Thank you for proving my point, bicker and bitch while you see how much worse things get it is then. Americans like you truly deserve what’s coming, because the rest of the world is trying to scream at you but “it’s not bad enough yet.” I’ll ask again, what will it take? Where is the line that they cross when you KNOW they’re a threat to your life?
You have this beautiful, nearly unique concept called the second amendment.
It’s not eventually. The ‘problem’ with being overly aggressive on migration is how easy it is to ignore someone’s “documentation”. And then it is a quick move to a camp where they’ve determined that, for efficiency, you don’t have any right to representation. License? Fake. Passport? Fake.
Man, the place is gonna so quiet without all the US citizens, we’ll finally be able to talk about stuff that isn’t related to the US!
Like how your country is going in the same direction they did!
I’m sure imprisoning 30000 innocent people next to highly trained terrorists won’t come back to haunt the US.
Newsflash about the current inmates of Guantanamo
Radicalizing 30k people
Mark my words- queer people will be next.
Trans women specifically, the others are safe for a few more years then it will be their turn.
😢 I’d guess trans women and all unhoused people could be the first casualties, potentially involving cheap prison labour within the US to replace externally detained migrants. Why is it so easy to think of worst case scenarios but so hard to think of ways to stop this?
Democrats could actually campaign on healthcare for all, living wages and stop trying to restrict gun ownership for the working class. But here we are. But then they’d have to actually help poor people instead of trapping them in cycles of dependency, and tax the rich. There’s a reason they shut Bernie down. Their owners don’t like those things.
I meant before elections come (and that’s assuming they don’t find a way to undermine those as well). All I can think of is how Michelle Obama quoted MLK Jr. and said to honour his legacy by getting involved in local community, honouring the other important day of the year that it was, rather than commenting on the inauguration directly.
HomosexualityQueerdom is aJewishimmigrant plot againstGermanythe US.It’s practically fascist mad libs.
The path to that easier than you might think. Just get the propaganda mill talking about Thai ladyboys and black-market hormones a bit. They love little talking points that are are rooted in preconceptions and tiny slivers of half-truths that they can contort to fit their agenda…to expand on and then justify their actions.
They are fun to pick out. The other day Trump claimed that the ominous “they” were sending water directly to the ocean to save an endangered fish instead of to LA to fight fires.
That endangered fish is called a Delta Smelt. “Delta”, as in a river delta, as found at the end of a river…you know, that thing that carries said water to the ocean.
100%. If you look at the language they’re using to describe trans people in their EOs it’s clear as day where they’re heading and considering they’ve begun holding trans people’s passports indefinitely- they don’t want us escaping.
Someone in another thread is literally telling me queer people have nothing to fear because, according to them, nothing serious has happened yet.
And they and others give me shit for getting my gay daughter out of the country because I’m supposed to put Palestinians (who I work my ass off to help) ahead of my own child. Which, and I’m not sure they understand this, is neglect and generally frowned upon by child protective services.
I don’t get it, what does you moving to the UK have to do with helping Palestinians?
Apparently you should care more about Palestinians than your own queer child because there is no genocide of queer people in America even though it’s literally already started… but it’s not like those people actually give a shit about Palestinians. They’re just a pawn in their need to berate strangers on the internet.
I pointedly ask them what they are doing about the genocide since I work my ass off contacting politicians. It’s very clear that not only have most of them not done shit, most of them have never even talked to a Palestinian.
They also don’t seem to realize (or maybe care) that there are queer Palestinians. In America. At risk right now. Also in Palestine. But I guess they’ll be just fine.
Ah, the usual bad faith crap where some people decide that one particular tragedy out of the thousands happening all over the world right now is all you should care about. They’re just like the single-issue voters that helped Trump get elected.
Very much that, yes.
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There are definitely others that seem to participate in these discussions with the sole goal of upsetting people wearing a veneer of of leftist politics while lacking any seeming empathy. I tend to doubt their motives when they seem to only have compassion for some and not all
How did you get out of the country if you don’t mind me asking? I have no idea where I would start if I needed to leave. I’d prefer to go to a blue state if I could but of course that might not be an option. Also do you miss living in the US?
I am lucky because of this: https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-british-parent/born-before-1983
However, we are living on my savings until I get a job and my wife had to stay behind for now. My daughter can be here on a travel visa for six months and we will be out of money in three. I need a job that makes at least £29,000 a year to get a family visa for the two of them.
We’ve also only been here since the inauguration, so I am not all that homesick so far (I miss my wife and our dogs). Also I am just in awe of how nice and helpful people are here. I really didn’t realize the exact extent of American self-entitlement asshole culture until we got here and everyone has been friendly and helpful. Even the drunks.
That does sound nice. Hopefully you’re able to find some work and you’re able to get the rest of your family soon!!
I hope so, thanks!
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Some of us are able to keep more than one concern in our heads at a time.
So no, I’m not going to ignore the oppression of queer people just because you don’t want their existence brought up.
Also, you do know that some of those immigrants are queer, right? Did you assume they were all cishet?
And then the US said to Germany, “We too, can do Auschwitz.”
They think the problem with Auschwitz is that people could see it.
